Marcus Peters traded to Rams

[Sure-Oz]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...97064676052993
@AdamSchefter: Chiefs are expected to trade CB Marcus Peters to the Los Angeles Rams, sources tell ESPN. Teams are in final stages of talks and barring an unexpected snag, the trade is expected to be agreed to as early as today.

@AdamSchefter: Rams and Chiefs are in final stages of talks and barring an unexpected snag, the trade is expected to be agreed to as early as today.

@AdamSchefter: Marcus Peters to LA Rams trade is now officially agreed to, per source; cannot be processed until March 14. But Peters expected to be a Ram.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Or you can look at it from the angle of why did the Chiefs even draft him in the first place if they weren't prepared to deal with his well known character issues.

Cancer is tricky. It plays you. Makes you think its gone.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

We’ll know in a couple years if they are right.

Washington (college) and the Chiefs were both wrong in thinking it’d be different for them.

Originally Posted by Messier

Don't most teams think they can deal with character concerns? The Rams right now are saying, it'll be different with us.

High maintenance malcontents at age 25 or above generally don't change, at least until it's too late.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

No, that's on the Chiefs for drafting a well known malcontent and expecting him to change who he is as a person and as a competitor. We got exactly what was advertised when we drafted Marcus Peters. Advertised All Pro talent. Advertised nutcase. You can't just draft a leopard and expect it to change its spots. That's just dumb.

Meh, he was a young hot head coming out of college. They thought they could handle him and help him mature. This is on Marcus Peters. No one else.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yes, you should expect a 22 year old man to become more mature over the course of three years.

Most people do, especially those presented an incredible opportunity to play a game for millions upon millions of dollars.

If said person stays the same (or in this case, regresses), that's on the person, not the owner, coaches, training staff, front office or other players.

Exactly Dane. Kelce has appeared to mature on the field this season. We’ll see going forward if that’s the case.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I completely disagree.

The Chiefs gave Marcus Peters an opportunity to earn 1st round money and a contract extension if he played well. He played well enough in 2015 and 2016 but his quality of play dropped off in 2017.

His play, in a vacuum, is absolutely no reason to trade him, especially without trading him for a premium return.

Marcus Peters bears responsibility for his actions on the field and off the field. Four Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalties, jawing with the fans, throwing a flag into the stands and quitting on his team have absolutely NOTHING to do with Andy Reid, his coaching staff, the front office and ownership.

His petulant behavior lies solely on the shoulders of Marcus Peters, The Chiefs Franchise and its players are not responsible for keeping Peters "in line".

That's on Marcus Peters.

We'll agree to disagree.

The Chiefs took the bargain boon in Peters, knowing why they were getting a steal. Marcus didn't get to choose the Chiefs.

Does that excuse Peters from responsibility? No, not at all. But the Chiefs were the party to initiate the relationship and were in charge, and they bungled it. Shit happens

The Chiefs will be left picking up the pieces while Peters will likely get exactly what he wants.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Nelson and Ford are on the trade block? Where’d we learn this?

"We" didn't.

Apparently, according to one report, the Chiefs have been offering up Steven Nelson since acquiring Fuller.

Another report stated that the Chiefs asked for Robert Quinn in the Peters trade but were rebuked.

I'm not sure why people are making the leap to Ford being traded (he'd have to pass a physical first, something that hasn't happened yet) but attempting to acquire Quinn should be mutually exclusive from trading Ford, IMO.

Quinn's a great outside pass rusher and would make an immediate impact on the Chiefs defense.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

KC tried to trade Nelson and they asked for Robert Quinn in the deal. That says a lot about Ford.

First I am hearing of Nelson in this deal (if I understood you correctly) or any deal for that matter. Who reported Nelson on the block?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by NWTF

Going by what others have said I believe it really came to a head after the Oakland game when he ditched the team and took the BART back with Lynch and Raider fans to Lynches place in Oakland, then returned to KC on his own all without notifying anyone on the Chiefs. Then the following week he had the meltdown @ the jets when he basically tried to eject himself from the game and they had to pull him out of the shower to return to the field. Then he had the confrontation in the tunnel with his mom afterward.

that's it in a nut shell

The melt down ****ed our compensation.

[nychief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The defense is in absolutely terrible shape, maybe as bad as it's been in 15 years.

The Chiefs have three D-Lineman under contracts and their best player is coming off of another surgery.

They have 2 linebackers under contract in Eligwe and Ragland.

Hali is a goner, Houston's no where near worth his payday, Kpassongon is a huge question mark, as is Dee Ford.

Only a few cornerbacks are under contract in Fuller, Nelson and some scrubs.

Their safeties, beyond Berry, and no one know how long his body will hold up, are generally well below average in Sorensen, Murray and an average Ron Parker.

Beyond that, depth is needed everywhere.

Completely agree with all this... think that is why we are stock piling assets and will invest heavily in defense in both the draft and FA.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Marcus wears his welcome out after a few years. He did it at Washington with the Huskies and now with Kansas City. I’m going to believe he’ll wear his welcome out anywhere. Even in Oakland, if they took him, he would’ve wore out Del Rio. Maybe Gruden could’ve gotten to him I don’t know. But if Reid can’t get to him, no one can but maybe his father. That’s the only spot he’s been on top of it (high school).

Peters is another player that would have conformed under Belichick, if I were to bet.

Originally Posted by Messier

I don't think so. Some here are acting like Reid and the Chiefs are incompetent. That they're clueless how to handle "difficult" player situations. They're not. Hill was a sticky situation to enter into and it's working. The Chiefs AND the player are doing what they need to. It's always a two way street. It's not just on the Chiefs to handle a difficult player. The player has to take responsibility as well.

****ing up on Peters doesn't mean they have no idea how to handle troubled players, but you could say they bungled this particular situation.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

"We" didn't.

Apparently, according to one report, the Chiefs have been offering up Steven Nelson since acquiring Fuller.

Another report stated that the Chiefs asked for Robert Quinn in the Peters trade but were rebuked.

I'm not sure why people are making the leap to Ford being traded (he'd have to pass a physical first, something that hasn't happened yet) but attempting to acquire Quinn should be mutually exclusive from trading Ford, IMO.

Quinn's a great outside pass rusher and would make an immediate impact on the Chiefs defense.

I don’t think it meant he was being traded but more so being let go next season.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

High maintenance malcontents at age 25 or above generally don't change, at least until it's too late.

That's why I'm guessing it's going to be the same with the Rams. Unless just being in LA was the trick.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The defense is in absolutely terrible shape, maybe as bad as it's been in 15 years.

The Chiefs have three D-Lineman under contracts and their best player is coming off of another surgery.

They have 2 linebackers under contract in Eligwe and Ragland.

Hali is a goner, Houston's no where near worth his payday, Kpassongon is a huge question mark, as is Dee Ford.

Only a few cornerbacks are under contract in Fuller, Nelson and some scrubs.

Their safeties, beyond Berry, and no one know how long his body will hold up, are generally well below average in Sorensen, Murray and an average Ron Parker.

Beyond that, depth is needed everywhere.

This was all true this past season, aside from sending Peters packing, and we were middle of the pack at worst.

We're better off than Oakland, a bit behind LAC and not much worse off than Denver.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

But the Chiefs were the party to initiate the relationship and were in charge, and they bungled it. Shit happens

You have absolutely zero proof that the Chiefs "bungled it".

Are you a manager of any sort? Have you ever run a department of people? If so, you'd know that some people are easy to manage, do their job, don't make a fuss and others are just unmanageable.

That's the case here: Peters clearly became too much to manage. The Chiefs franchise can't play babysitter to one player when there's 52 others on the Active Roster and another 10 players on the Practice Squad.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Peters is another player that would have conformed under Belichick, if I were to bet.


****ing up on Peters doesn't mean they have no idea how to handle troubled players, but you could say they bungled this particular situation.

Yes, and when you're trading an all pro early in his career, something went wrong. But I'm guessing Peters is helping making sure it doesn't work out.