Chiefs listing McCluster as a WR

[petegz28]

Just reported on 810

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That's how he always posts, he's above it, he is awesome and we suck.

I was told that insults only hurt if there's some truth to them...

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

When? In 2010? Big ****ing deal.

If this team had taken your Pioli projection of McClain, they'd be ****ed at safety.

If they took Berry but not an OLB, they'd be ****ed.

Face it: This team is a LONG way from filling all its holes and no matter who they chose, there are still going to be problems elsewhere.

not all problems are the same

a problem at nickel corner is not near as important as a problem at NT

and nickle cbs are easier to find than NTs

when you have 2 nts sitting in your lap in the 2nd round of a strong draft you don't draft a nickle cb (who was a reach anyways)

these decisions haunt us....

[QuikSsurfer]

this thread is picking up.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I'll give you that the draft wasn't nearly as bad as last year. I just think we dropped the ball on some guys that are going to be good, and would've immediately started for us in more than just nickel situations.

And McCluster could easily return the ball. Same with Charles. Sean Lee would've been a GREAT choice at 50 IMO.

I am glad he's going after playmakers. Genuinely. I just really wish he would've gotten one guy, just one guy at one of the core positions that desperately need help. I'll never forget what Jerome Harrison did to us.

Imagine how better received this day 2 would be if Arenas were replaced with a guy like [insert list of like 15 better picks here], a better pick from both BPA and need standpoints and if the trade up for a TE never happened, leaving tomorrow with an opportunity to nab a TE still (from a deeeep TE class) and address LB.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

When in the history of the Chiefs has anyone had any expectations?

93.

The one and only year Carl delivered and gave us a SB competitive team.

And that is sad.

It is sad both in how long it's been and sad in the fact that we've been unable to replicate it...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I'll give you that the draft wasn't nearly as bad as last year. I just think we dropped the ball on some guys that are going to be good, and would've immediately started for us in more than just nickel situations.

And McCluster could easily return the ball. Same with Charles. Sean Lee would've been a GREAT choice at 50 IMO.

I am glad he's going after playmakers. Genuinely. I just really wish he would've gotten one guy, just one guy at one of the core positions that desperately need help. I'll never forget what Jerome Harrison did to us.

Sean Lee would have been a great "choice" IMO, as well.

But with all honesty, I don't know if he'll impact a game like Arenas.

And I say that in total honesty. I just don't know.

But what I DO know is that the Chiefs need instinctive defensive backs and guys that can return the football.

Time will tell which was the "right" choice but I can't complain today.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

When in the history of the Chiefs has anyone had any expectations?

Round Two has historically been their Achille's Heel.

That's not an argument, Dane. Its a non-sequitor. Besides, the Chiefs sucked at round 2 under Carl because of his propensity to reach during it.

[Mecca]

Dane thinks Arenas is going to run back 20 kicks for TD's, either that or you mean impact the game by getting beat seeing as he was prominently featured in the other players highlight packages.

[QuikSsurfer]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Imagine how better received this day 2 would be if Arenas were replaced with a guy like [insert list of like 15 better picks here], a better pick from both BPA and need standpoints and if the trade up for a TE never happened, leaving tomorrow with an opportunity to nab a TE still (from a deeeep TE class) and address LB.

Lol bastard

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sean Lee would have been a great "choice" IMO, as well.

But with all honesty, I don't know if he'll impact a game like Arenas.

And I say that in total honesty. I just don't know.

But what I DO know is that the Chiefs need instinctive defensive backs and guys that can return the football.

Time will tell which was the "right" choice but I can't complain today.

I am inspired by your positive attitude. I didn't expect it. Time will tell is the best way to put it.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

The more I look at them the more I like them. But I'm going to be concerned with our defense until it proves me wrong.

I've been more concerned with the offense all along.

Defensively, there's a lot of talent on the line, although they're young and were, I believe, poorly coached. I think the makings are there for a tremendous secondary. What I have the most question about right now is linebacker. I'm curious to see how that plays out. But that's never, to me, been a position that absolutely, positively has to be filled out in the draft, much less the first three rounds of the draft. But I really don't think the defense is more than a piece or two away.

On offense - and I've said this a few times in the last 4 months - I thought the unit last year was the worst offense I've seen, personnel-wise. Branden Albert was, at the time, the only talent on the line. Our starters at WR and TE for much of last year were players we picked off of waivers during the season. I'm actually embarrassed by that, to a degree - that's a bag over my head kind of thing. Charles was great at RB for half a season, basically the only sign of hope that I saw, but there are I think valid concerns about his health and ability to shoulder the load.

They've basically rebuilt the interior line now, with vets and last evening's pick and I think there may be real competition for the starting guard and center positions now. I still wonder about RT... I believe Jones was a wise acquisition at RB. If McCluster is, in fact, able to successfully execute a Welker-esque role in Weis' offense, he'll be a huge part of the offense going forward. I think Chambers is a quality number 2, the question now is whether Dwayne Bowe is ready and able to take a step forward and become a real, consistent threat. This is a huge season for him. TEs? **** if I know. I think that position's going to be a work in progress, although the general (national) consensus on Moeaki is that he could be a stud if he can find a way to stay on the field.

The real problem I see now is Cassel. I didn't want them to trade for him last year, and I don't see much reason to hope he'll suddenly turn into an all-pro, even after what I see as a very real influx in talent. But, at the same time, I'm not sure that our failure to draft Clausen (or McCoy) really was a statement about Cassel. It may well have been a statement about them, and the kind of future and potential the front office foresaw.

Anyway, this post has turned into something I didn't expect, sort of a laundry list of the moves they've made. I think maybe, now that I look at everything together, they've done more to transition from 2009 to 2010 than I'd realized. I think maybe I tend to forget about just how many young, key players there really are, and not just on the defensive line. There may even be some candidates already on the roster for the OLB position opposite Hali.

I said earlier (was that in this thread or another) that maybe it's hard for us to look at all this objectively, because we're so close to it....

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

these decisions haunt us....

You can't say that with absolute certainty.

At least this year, they took playmakers.

We'll see how it pays off in 2010 and beyond.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Your quotation marks are the key to that post. That's one of the reasons a lot of people were pissed about the McCluster pick. They felt a franchise qb was ripe for the picking with a very good risk vs. reward factor.

Speak for yourself. Franchise QB my ass. It was simply an unnecessary pick, especially when one looks at the roster and the needs the team had with the players available in the draft.

Quarterback was the least of the worries at that point. So was slot receiver, especially after signing Urban.

I understand that the kid is dynamic, presents an "uncatchable" force on the outside in a multi-receiver/back set, but for Christ's sake, how about getting a situation established where the core of the team, offense or defense is established before we start picking toys that we play with 15% of the time at max in a game. ****!

If we want to take a ****ing receiver at that point, how about Damian Williams, who is also a solid return guy, and at 6'1", 200 lbs., he's also a sure handed, legit #2 receiver. ****!

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Dane thinks Arenas is going to run back 20 kicks for TD's, either that or you mean impact the game by getting beat seeing as he was prominently featured in the other players highlight packages.

Just for the sake of your case, can you post the highlight videos that you're referring too so we can all see what the fuss is about?

[ChiefsCountry]

I like how two years in a row they have totally went against the draft board. Not to mention the franchise crippling trade last year for that worthless dog shit Cassel.