***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Pants

It also explains why China kept it under wraps as they were mobilizing to contain this mother****er. They probably didn't know what exactly escaped, but they knew it wasn't going to be good.

Does anyone remember any of those early articles/blogs from Westerners describing the quarantine measures China implemented to keep this at bay? Every single individual was literally color coded and locked away. Nobody could go anywhere. It was brutal and brutally effective.

THIS IS ALL PURE CONJECTURE, but I personally believe that's what happened.

The Wuhan lab isn't really a Chinese lab though, its an international research lab funded and run by many countries. Yea it likely escaped from there accidentally but not really because of "China" specifically.

China hiding it as much as they did is on them but its likely a result of the lab and that specific scientific community not wanting people to know that's where it came from because if that was known to be fact, well there goes your research funding likely for good. Bye bye Wuhan lab. The same reason most virologist keep saying its not man made. $$$$ International $$$.

$$$ is the answer to most mysteries.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

The Wuhan lab isn't really a Chinese lab though, its an international research lab funded and run by many countries. Yea it likely escaped from there accidentally but not really because of "China" specifically.

China hiding it as much as they did is on them but its likely a result of the lab and that specific scientific community not wanting people to know that's where it came from because if that was known to be fact, well there goes your research funding likely for good. Bye bye Wuhan lab. The same reason most virologist keep saying its not man made. $$$$ International $$$.

$$$ is the answer to most mysteries.

Ahhh, gotcha. Good info.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DaFace

"Science" hasn't changed. The speed at which shaky data becomes public has.

Yes and therefore, I'm unwilling to risk my children's lives because some scientist posted a chart that may be completely invalidated tomorrow, next week, next month or 3 months from now.

I don't know of a single parent that isn't happy that our district has decided to continue with online learning until returning to school has been deemed completely safe.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You would like him, he hates Trump, is pro mask, and is an evolutionary biologist who studied bats for years and knows a lot about whats ****ed up with academia and science. He also gives some absolutely great information on why he thinks the virus was manipulated and came from a lab. Scientific reasons. He also explains why virologists are lying about it.

Warning: Getting political.....(just beating Mr. Donger to the punch

[TLO]

Originally Posted by eDave

Saw briefly that the CDC is saying this fall is going to be a real mother****er.

Linky dinky?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Linky dinky?

www.cdc.gov/covid19realmother****er

[eDave]

Originally Posted by TLO

Linky dinky?

No. Just saw it briefly at one point and moved on with my life.

[Donger]

https://www.jwatch.org/fw116834/2020...imiting-spread

CDC Director Robert Redfield and other agency officials conclude in a JAMA editorial: "At this critical juncture when COVID-19 is resurging, broad adoption of cloth face coverings is a civic duty, a small sacrifice reliant on a highly effective low-tech solution that can help turn the tide favorably in national and global efforts against COVID-19."

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

Linky dinky?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carliep.../#778ff96d6080

[petegz28]

1st COVID-19 vaccine tested in U.S. boosted people’s immune systems, researchers say

https://ktla.com/news/coronavirus/1s...final-testing/

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

1st COVID-19 vaccine tested in U.S. boosted people’s immune systems, researchers say

https://ktla.com/news/coronavirus/1s...final-testing/

I'm guessing emergency use for at least one of the leading vaccines is approved in October. It won't be enough to vaccinate everyone that wants it, but it'll be enough to cover a lot of the front line people and some of those at most risk of severe disease.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carliep.../#778ff96d6080

Thanks.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Why would now be any different? If a community is in bad enough shape to consider keeping kids out of school, there’s a pretty good chance that everyone not deemed essential isn’t going to their office either.

The people I know that were working from home in April are still working from home now in July.

I been working home since March. With an occasional 1 day in each month to go to the office to grab supplies, (which isn't an issue because nobody's there anyways or even if someone is there, spacing isn't an issue), I'm still working from home in July.

I hazard a guess that this probably will continue onwards until at least the end of the year, in my opinion.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

1st COVID-19 vaccine tested in U.S. boosted people’s immune systems, researchers say

https://ktla.com/news/coronavirus/1s...final-testing/

I’m digging this post.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Good news