***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Anybody remember the news discussing the strange respiratory affects of vaping and E cigs on our youth last year? I remember seeing reports of doctors looking at young kids lungs asking, "WTF???" and there were definitely ill kids and some fatalities and tons of talk about making ecigs and vaping unlawful. Has that discussion stopped because of Covid? Seems to me I havent heard anything regarding Ecigs and vaping killing people anymore.

Root cause was established and fixed.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Check your Pulse Ox and take the tightness seriously, please.

98, which is my baseline.

I also did 200 push-ups throughout the day, 10 sets total.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by lewdog

98, which is my baseline.

I also did 200 push-ups throughout the day, 10 sets total.

Shit, I'm jealous.

Most of the month I was down I could barely walk from room to room without sucking wind.

Let's grab a drink or four on the other side of this. Maybe I'll bring my bottle of Pappy back with me next time I visit STL.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lewdog

98, which is my baseline.

I also did 200 push-ups throughout the day, 10 sets total.

Good

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Good

numbers in today very similar to last week. Only +2 compared to last Thursday. So far it seems the uptick in deaths has been fairly marginal given that cases have been rising for well over a month now. Hopefully they stay down. Even if they go up a small amount from here we are still far away from the NY days. And if AZ really is starting to roll over then maybe we see the deaths start rolling back down some as well.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Shit, I'm jealous.

Most of the month I was down I could barely walk from room to room without sucking wind.

Let's grab a drink or four on the other side of this. Maybe I'll bring my bottle of Pappy back with me next time I visit STL.

Yes. Some good bourbons are to be had!

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by eDave

Root cause was established and fixed.

did covid fix it? (kidding)

I remember an argument saying it was bad home made shit with THC and other things regarding vitamin E but here in Ca.....E Cigs were the culprit and they wanted to outlaw them and vapes......it was a hot and heavy discussion when not discussing Trump on the local bay area news.....then Covid came and it all went away....or so it seems to me.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by jdubya

did covid fix it? (kidding)

I remember an argument saying it was bad home made shit with THC and other things regarding vitamin E but here in Ca.....E Cigs were the culprit and they wanted to outlaw them and vapes......it was a hot and heavy discussion when not discussing Trump on the local bay area news.....then Covid came and it all went away....or so it seems to me.

I think you're confusing two different reports.

There were reports of deaths and lung damage last year but those were due to people vaping "homemade juices", which often had deadly amounts of illegal drugs and other substances.

Regulated E-cigs and pens aren't illegal but there are questions about the long term use and safety of both.

[eDave]

Ultimately I think it was a fad that just died out. I don't vape mary jane anymore.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by eDave

Ultimately I think it was a fad that just died out. I don't vape mary jane anymore.

Edibles, baby, edibles.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Edibles, baby, edibles.

I went to a cooking class a few weeks ago. Really interesting. Had mixed drinks with the stir straw dipped in oil. Next time you are out and see someone licking the end of their straw, that's why.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by eDave

I went to a cooking class a few weeks ago. Really interesting. Had mixed drinks with the stir straw dipped in oil. Next time you are out and see someone licking the end of their straw, that's why.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by O.city

With technology, there’s ways to worship. It’s not ideal. Nothing seems to be right now

Nothing is ideal. Never did I think in a million years we would be stuck in our homes because of this thing.

But we just have to adapt. It's not easy, but got to do somehow, someway.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I didn't receive a text alert but nothing would surprise me at this point.

This is getting really old, Dude. I totally understand why we're doing it but I have to admit, it's wearing on me.

I need to go sit on a beach for two weeks and do nothing.

You and me too brother. I'm worn out from this crap, and I'm sure most people are at this point. But we just got to stay strong and stay focused as best as we can and hopefully a vaccine (preferably one that works with minimal side-effects) will come sooner rather than later.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by eDave

Ultimately I think it was a fad that just died out. I don't vape mary jane anymore.

I know probably 5 people who still do.

[Strongside]

Is there a running count or list of CP members who have contracted?