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Old 07-15-2012, 01:15 PM  
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Elvis Dumervil arrested
The Miami-Dade (Fla.) court website confirms Elvis Dumervil was arrested for aggravated assault with a firearm.

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Old 07-17-2012, 01:31 PM   #391
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I know one way to tell, and I'd be interested to know if the police bother: Are Dumervil's fingerprints on the gun?
Yup. Really, this entire case comes down to one thing: Did Dumervil show the gun to the people in the car. Nothing else matters. If he doesn't have prints on the gun, he should walk.

If the prints are there, then it really just depends on the specifics from the witnesses. I think the people in the car can safely be considered to be credible witnesses that there was A gun involved, but not necessarily that both guys had one. Then, it really comes down to the Victoria's Secret witness and whether he/she can be considered to be credible.

Ignoring all that though, based on the description that this happened in heavy traffic, I'd be pretty amazed if they really only came up with one non-involved witness in the whole thing. Surely SOMEONE driving around there saw what happened more closely.
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:31 PM   #392
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I don't know about the 99 percent part, but yes...these men knew how to fight and of considerable size compared to the female. They got their ass beat and not for a lack of trying.
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I know that if a Chief's player pulled this shit I sure as **** wouldn't be defending the piece of trash.

Vanover, Bam Morris, etc. **** all of those pieces of shit.
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:34 PM   #394
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I know that if a Chief's player pulled this shit I sure as **** wouldn't be defending the piece of trash.

Vanover, Bam Morris, etc. **** all of those pieces of shit.
I don't see a WHOLE lot of Bronco fans that are defending the action if the facts are true. But there's certainly a small level of doubt that Dumervil actually brandished a gun. I'd really like to see another non-involved witness to feel very confident about things either way.
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:35 PM   #395
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:40 PM   #396
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I don't know about the 99 percent part, but yes...these men knew how to fight and of considerable size compared to the female. They got their ass beat and not for a lack of trying.
Seriously? You are speaking in ridiculous generalizations. Dumerville is an NFL defensive end. You cannot possibly say this woman was a threat to especially given she was in her car. Remember, Dumerville got out, so he clearly he took the most aggressive action.
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I know that if a Chief's player pulled this shit I sure as **** wouldn't be defending the piece of trash.

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I'd like to be made aware of the facts before passing judgement.

Of one thing I am already quite sure though: Elvis is a stupid mother****er who repeatedly makes poor decisions and if he weren't a pro athlete he'd be dead, in prison, or on his way. This whole thing is his fault. He's a full grown man who should know to stay in his luxury ride and go to his luxury hotel or beach club and drink Cristal until its time to go to camp.
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I'd like to be made aware of the facts before passing judgement.

Of one thing I am already quite sure though: Elvis is a stupid mother****er who repeatedly makes poor decisions and if he weren't a pro athlete he'd be dead, in prison, or on his way. This whole thing is his fault. He's a full grown man who knows to stay in his luxury ride and go to his luxury hotel or beach club and drink Cristal until its time to go to camp.
I would be a recluse if I were a pro athlete. Of course, being a pro athlete, especially a defensive player automatically dooms you to having nearly zero common sense.
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So you're saying that the people from the white Impala made sure to make it clear to the Victoria's Secret employee that it was indeed both men that lifted their shirts to show a gun, and not just one of them?

I know one way to tell, and I'd be interested to know if the police bother: Are Dumervil's fingerprints on the gun?
So it's impossible that they said both men had guns? That's the rebuttal? If I had a gun being threatened to me I would make sure people knew who had a gun.

And I agree on the second part but I still don't think this goes that far because the victims will receive something similar to this as an offer:
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So it's impossible that they said both men had guns? That's the rebuttal? If I had a gun being threatened to me I would make sure people knew who had a gun.

And I agree on the second part but I still don't think this goes that far because the victims will receive something similar to this as an offer:
There are no victims in this case. Only stupid people who shouldn't be driving on our roads.
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So it's impossible that they said both men had guns? That's the rebuttal? If I had a gun being threatened to me I would make sure people knew who had a gun.

And I agree on the second part but I still don't think this goes that far because the victims will receive something similar to this as an offer:
It's a criminal case - not civil. The "victims" really don't have much of a say in the matter.
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Complete strangers that didn't know you? I find that hard to believe. These were woman you were in love with.....maybe. LOL
Quite the contrary, I KNEW they were batshit insane.
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There are no victims in this case. Only stupid people who shouldn't be driving on our roads.
This is true. But since the woman is called the victim in the report I shall do the same. Anything I can do to drag Elvis through the mud
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This is true. But since the woman is called the victim in the report I shall do the same. Anything I can do to drag Elvis through the mud
I can respect that.
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So it's impossible that they said both men had guns? That's the rebuttal? If I had a gun being threatened to me I would make sure people knew who had a gun.

And I agree on the second part but I still don't think this goes that far because the victims will receive something similar to this as an offer:
I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that the second hand story of a lady that actually didn't see anything herself isn't enough to convict someone.
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