Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate

[Dante84]

In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?

[bobhill]

Is Yasir Durant a bad option at LT?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by bobhill

Is Yasir Durant a bad option at LT?

Yes.


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[bobhill]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yes.


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Why ?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I wouldn’t mind that but I don’t want to wait for round 2. All of the best prospects will be going in the top 50

You keep saying this. I disagree.

Walker Little will likely be there at 63. If not, one of Hudson or Smith will.

I’m not drafting for need at 31, and I’m not forcing a trade up. Worst case scenario your trade up in the 2nd to secure one. That’s the entire point of signing Okung.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I think the idea with Okung is to also take a T early. At least in the first 2 rounds.

Correct.

I also am not big on the Dillard idea. He hasn’t proven to be even a solid player yet and just missed a full season to injury. Would rather pick our own guy than do that.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You keep saying this. I disagree.

Walker Little will likely be there at 63. If not, one of Hudson or Smith will.

I’m not drafting for need at 31, and I’m not forcing a trade up. Worst case scenario your trade up in the 2nd to secure one. That’s the entire point of signing Okung.

This. Nobody is saying sign Okung and say **** it to the LT position for the next three years. We’re saying sign Okung and take the LT that you want. Whether that’s a guy you like at 31 or 63....or trade up in the second.

[O.city]

I’d trade up for one if I had to if therr was one you loved that got in range

[-King-]

Originally Posted by In58men

They gotta wait though

No they don't. They got their money upfront as a bonus instead of in game checks.

[O.city]

I think you could sign a stop gap and draft one with the intention that the young guy takes over whenever he’s ready this year or even day one.

Long run that’s the way to go.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You keep saying this. I disagree.

Walker Little will likely be there at 63. If not, one of Hudson or Smith will.

I’m not drafting for need at 31, and I’m not forcing a trade up. Worst case scenario your trade up in the 2nd to secure one. That’s the entire point of signing Okung.

100% disagree

If you want a LT capable of starting effectively, you pretty much need to take one day 1. It doesn’t help at all that we are the second to last pick of the 2nd rd.

So basically you’re comfortable trying to get a guy suited more for 3rd rd who have significant issues?

Walker Little is possible due to covid opt out, but even then I don’t think he’s there at 63.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

100% disagree

If you want a LT capable of starting effectively, you pretty much need to take one day 1. It doesn’t help at all that we are the second to last pick of the 2nd rd.

So basically you’re comfortable trying to get a guy suited more for 3rd rd who have significant issues?

Walker Little is possible due to covid opt out, but even then I don’t think he’s there at 63.

We’ve been over this. You do this every year with Ts. Last year it was Ezra Cleveland that wouldn’t make it to 32, but he didn’t go till the 58th overall pick. You claimed he’d be top 20 in any other draft because last years class was the best OT class ever.

Now here we are, and you’re doing it with this class too. You’re focusing on a good/deep position group and you scare yourself into thinking you have to reach to get one. That’s a terrible way to approach the draft. You let the draft come to you. You don’t force things because of need. Again, that’s the entire point of signing a guy like Okung. To give you a little more flexibility in the draft.

Half the league isn’t going to take a T in the first 2 rounds dude. Smith, Hudson, and Little aren’t all going to be gone and at the very least they will be within reach to trade up in the 2nd.

- If Cosmi or Jenkins slip into our range, sure trade up.

- If Mayfield is sitting there at 31 and they think they can groom him to play LT, I’m good with that.

- If Eichenberg is the best T available at 31, there will likely be a DE or WR I’d with a higher grade. I’m not drafting for need.

- If there’s a huge run on T’s in the 1st, then that increases the likelihood of getting value in the 2nd. This class is extremely deep and like I said, half the league isn’t going to take a T in the first 2 rounds. That just doesn’t happen.

[O.city]

I’d like to have cosmi. If he gets in range of say, 22/23 I’d see what I’d need to do

[staylor26]

I mean aside from LT vs. RT, Little and Niang are extremely similar prospects.

I don’t see Little having a grade with a difference of more than an entire round. That’s just crazy.

[ForeverIowan]

This team went 13-0 last year with Remmers holding down the right tackle spot. 13-0! 1.)Slide Allegretti to center 2.) Draft Bateman or Marshall Jr. with pick 31 3.) Draft your future left tackle with your 2nd rounder. This pick and Niang are your future bookends. 4.) Sign an experienced veteran as a stopgap left tackle.

Do those above four things and you are the same or better at 10 of 11 positions as compared to last year. Worse at 1 of 11.

Quarterback - Same (Mahomes)
RB1 - Same (CEH)
TE - Same (Kelce)
WR1 - Same (Hill)
WR2 - Better - Draft Bateman or Marshall Jr. with pick 31.
WR3 - Same (Hardman)
LT - Worse. TBD what we do there.
LG - Better (Thuney)
C - Same probably better (Allegretti)
RG - Better (LDT or Long)
RT - Same (Remmers or Niang)

[UChieffyBugger]

I don't really fancy trying to turn a RT like Mayfield into an LT tbh because what if it fails? We'd be fecked. Leatherwood, Radunz, Hudson, Little etc someone is gonna be there for our first two picks I think so get one of them, plus get Okung and we're in a good place with our tackles for the now and future.