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Old 02-01-2022, 02:58 PM  
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Old 02-01-2022, 11:20 PM   #406
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You've never interviewed people for a job or position, have you? It's probably not the best practice but it's common for people to have their minds made up before the interviews or after a few interviews on who they are going to hire. This is in general and the NFL I'm sure is more common than not.

Do you think the Chiefs were giving real interviews to other candidates in 2013? Hunt had his eyes on Reid so does that make him racist? I don't remember who they interviewed but I know they "satisfied" the Rooney Rule requirement before he was named the HC.
EXACTLY.

The Giants new GM is also from Buffalo. He probably knew Daboll was his guy before he even got the ****ing job, and it had absolutely nothing to do with race.
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Old 02-01-2022, 11:20 PM   #407
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Oh how the tables have turned coach Flores. The ones playing the race game in here gotta hold an L after this

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Old 02-01-2022, 11:23 PM   #408
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I see a lot of white football players in high school, but not in the nfl. racist NFL
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Old 02-01-2022, 11:27 PM   #409
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Gonna take a wild guess and say because there are barely any Asian football players on any level.

The University of Hawaii just hired Timmy Chang as HC, and they have Asian players. Of course I can’t see that happening in the NFL, but you did say on any level.


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Old 02-01-2022, 11:32 PM   #410
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The Rooney Rule is unlikely to violate Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 because it does not involve a quota. Affirmative action efforts to promote diversity (a good thing, IMO) have been held to be legally acceptable so long as they don't involve rigid quotas.

A requirement to interview does not lead to a requirement to hire a minority. Yes, some of these interviews are token interviews, but some of them are not and minority coaches have gotten hired. Even if someone is brought in to fulfill requirements for the Rooney Rule, an interviewee can still impress enough to be considered more seriously when there is another opening in that organization.
The rule punishes and rewards based on interviewing and hiring minorities. You can promote interviewing minority candidates but I'm not sure you can punish a team for not interviewing a minority candidate and I certainly don't think you can't reward a team for hiring a minority candidate. No one has pushed the issue yet but it will happen.
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I wonder if Rich Bisaccia would be used as an example of racism if he were black. They hired a white HC instead too.

Since he’s not, people don’t give a ****.

Was he kind of treated unfairly? You could certainly argue that, but since he’s not black, nobody looks twice at it.

Players reportedly aren’t happy either. Didn’t really hear that about Flores. If anything, sounds like their young QB was relieved.

It’s never about the substance/context though. It’s all about narrative.
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Old 02-01-2022, 11:38 PM   #412
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The only thing worthwhile in this lawsuit is the Ross tampering allegations. The entire racism angle may get this lawsuit tossed because it's garbage with absolutely no proof, just shock-jock talking points. In fact, it may get him counter sued.

Regardless, Flores' career as a coach is done. He'll never get hired because he can't be trusted.
You know who can't be trusted? Josh McDaniels.

Oh wait....
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Old 02-01-2022, 11:43 PM   #413
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Because it’s rare, hence why Jim Caldwell is still the poster boy for those that cry racism.

The point is that it had happened to white HCs too.

This is the problem with our society today. It doesn’t matter if it happens to white peoples too, if it happens to a black person, it HAS to be racism. That’s nonsensical.
And Caldwell is easily explained since he was fired by Detroit. The poster child for stupid decisions.
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It's the headline accusation of the entire lawsuit. He has provided no evidence for any of his allegations. Pictures of owners, texts that prove nothing beyond the Giants had their mind made up prior to the interview etc prove nothing. Unless he has audio or emails/texts from Ross about the throwing games or meeting Brady before he was free, then it may get dismissed.

It's also possible this brings an end to the Rooney Rule as it likely violates the Civil Rights act of 1964 as it's currently practiced.
We are only a few hours into this.
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Old 02-01-2022, 11:45 PM   #415
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The creators of the rule were hoping for a legit interview but that’s not happening and that’s what Flores is pointing out. He knows he won’t coach in NFL again and doesn’t care it’s bigger than that
No, the creators of the rule were trying to appease the media and other groups to avoid being sued and look good.

Funny how judge by the content of character and not skin color is conveniently used and then discarded.
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Well, like I said… barely. Asians make up 2% of nfl players. It’s not like there’s a long line of Asians gunning for coaching jobs.
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And Caldwell is easily explained since he was fired by Detroit. The poster child for stupid decisions.
Who now has a black GM. They also had two black coordinators in 2020.

They have no problem hiring black men in top positions.
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Because it’s rare, hence why Jim Caldwell is still the poster boy for those that cry racism.

The point is that it had happened to white HCs too.

This is the problem with our society today. It doesn’t matter if it happens to white peoples too, if it happens to a black person, it HAS to be racism. That’s nonsensical.
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Culley only got a season, and the guy won 4 more games than anyone expected.

Pretty sure Jim Caldwell had a winning record when he was canned by Detroit.
Dumb franchises do dumb things.

There is a whole thread here complaining about how the Texans are run like a cult.

Detroit has like one playoff win in 60 years.
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Steve Wilks got one ****ing season.

Was he a good head coach? Probably not. But the guy they hired to take over for him (Kingsbury) was an epic shit**** of a hire.

When Kingsbury gets fired, anybody want to take bets which guy is more likely to get a second head coaching opportunity in future years?
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They fired both Wilks and Rosen after one season. Both the JC and first round QB got the boot.
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