Chiefs Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate - Page 282

Dante84 · 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM

In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?

O.city · 03-20-2021, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

How do you know that the 49ers are willing to trade all the way back to 31?

I figure they go up got a qb

staylor26 · 03-20-2021, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I figure they go up got a qb

What? Are you drunk?

Are you saying the 49ers will go up and get a QB and we can trade with whoever ends up with the pick.

So a team picking in the top 5-10 is going to want to trade back to 12 then again all the way to 31?

kccrow · 03-20-2021, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Ummm this is all under the assumption that they also add a veteran LT like Okung.

Veach isn’t going into the draft without one.

You do understand he's running out of options for vets right?

Truthfully, he has little to work with.

Okung, who is injured a lot lately but fits.
Villanueva, who sucks in pass pro.
Peters, who was atrocious last year and is 39.
Tevi, who the Chargers haven't even resigned because he was a disaster.
Johnson, who played all of one game at LT and looked ok but probably fits best as a RT and we have a few of those.
Newhouse, who is getting exponentially worse by the season
and a few other failures.

smithandrew051 · 03-20-2021, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Okung BLOWS.. But I get your point.

Okung has only played 16 games in a season once in his career. If we grab him, we need a good backup too. Can’t have Remmers playing LT.

staylor26 · 03-20-2021, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

You do understand he's running out of options for vets right?

Truthfully, he has little to work with.

Okung, who is injured a lot lately but fits.
Villanueva, who sucks in pass pro.
Peters, who was atrocious last year and is 39.
Tevi, who the Chargers haven't even resigned because he was a disaster.
Johnson, who played all of one game at LT and looked ok but probably fits best as a RT and we have a few of those.
Newhouse, who is getting exponentially worse by the season
and a few other failures.

So you think Veach goes into the draft without signing one?

Reports are that the Chiefs are looking for a veteran LT. They will sign one, and if not, that means they traded for one.

MahomesMagic · 03-20-2021, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

You do understand he's running out of options for vets right?

Truthfully, he has little to work with.

Okung, who is injured a lot lately but fits.
Villanueva, who sucks in pass pro.
Peters, who was atrocious last year and is 39.
Tevi, who the Chargers haven't even resigned because he was a disaster.
Johnson, who played all of one game at LT and looked ok but probably fits best as a RT and we have a few of those.
Newhouse, who is getting exponentially worse by the season
and a few other failures.

Orlando Brown too.

kccrow · 03-20-2021, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

So you think Veach goes into the draft without signing Okung, Villanueva, or Peters?

Reports are that the Chiefs are looking for a veteran LT. They will sign one.

If he doesn't take a shot on Okung, I'd say it's very probable he does.

RunKC · 03-20-2021, 04:04 PM

I have zero problem with Veach trading next years 1st and some for a quality LT.

That’s an 8-10 year investment at one of the hardest positions to fill.

staylor26 · 03-20-2021, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

If he doesn't take a shot on Okung, I'd say it's very probable he does.

Well I’d be the first to tell you that I’m very confident that Okung will be a Chief unless they’re trading for one.

kccrow · 03-20-2021, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Orlando Brown too.

Orlando Brown will require the Chiefs to trade for him. Alot for him.

If the Chiefs are going to unload draft picks for a LT, why would you not try to go get a more athletic player in the draft like Darrisaw or Cosmi first?

staylor26 · 03-20-2021, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I have zero problem with Veach trading next years 1st and some for a quality LT.

That’s an 8-10 year investment at one of the hardest positions to fill.

Nobody should have a problem with it.

But this isn’t Madden. Wanting isn’t enough to get it done. If the Bills didn’t want to trade back to 27, Mahomes wouldn’t be a Chief. It takes two to tango.

kccrow · 03-20-2021, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Nobody should have a problem with it.

But this isn’t Madden. Wanting isn’t enough to get it done. If the Bills didn’t want to trade back to 27, Mahomes wouldn’t be a Chief. It takes two to tango.

Veach already knows what teams are willing to move back and approximately how much it will cost. San Francisco is a regular trade partner. They may be willing to move out of 12 to have that 2022 1st to use to move up for a QB next year. But you're right, they may not be willing. Some team from 12-18 probably is though.

staylor26 · 03-20-2021, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Veach already knows what teams are willing to move back and approximately how much it will cost. San Francisco is a regular trade partner. They may be willing to move out of 12 to have that 2022 1st to use to move up for a QB next year.

They might, and they might not. We don’t know.

And Veach might know who’s willing to trade, but that doesn’t mean he knows who will be available at those spots, and it also doesn’t mean he’s willing to give them what they want to trade down.

There are many factors that go into this and having the will to do it doesn’t mean that it’s for sure that everything comes together.

MahomesMagic · 03-20-2021, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Orlando Brown will require the Chiefs to trade for him. Alot for him.

If the Chiefs are going to unload draft picks for a LT, why would you not try to go get a more athletic player in the draft like Darrisaw or Cosmi first?

I don't know. I am guessing 1st plus something.

Normally I would be against because we have to offer big contract too.

For now we wait to see if we can sign a veteran.

RunKC · 03-20-2021, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

They might, and they might not. We don’t know.

And Veach might know who’s willing to trade, but that doesn’t mean he knows who will be available at those spots, and it also doesn’t mean he’s willing to give them what they want to trade down.

There are many factors that go into this and having the will to do it doesn’t mean that it’s for sure that everything comes together.

Good thing is this year there is projected to be 5 quality LT’s as compared to 2-3 in a normal year

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