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Old 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM  
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Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
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Old 03-20-2021, 05:46 PM   #4261
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Why not trade for Dillard, a pass pro specialist with potential untapped upside who at least has NFL experience... then grab Teven Jenkins in the second, even trading up if necessary?

I'm pretty big on Jenkins, not only is he massive and chippy, but extremely athletic for his size as well... he also has the strength to hold up day 1

Now we've got two guys with big upside battling it out...
You'd likely have to take Jenkins at #31, if not earlier.
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Old 03-20-2021, 05:46 PM   #4262
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You're going to have to trade up 15 picks or more to get one of the guys that could easily be penciled in as the starting LT on opening day.

That's a ridiculously hefty price to pay for a "chance".
Yeah and taking a chance with Okung and a later round rookie isn't a bigger chance?
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Old 03-20-2021, 05:48 PM   #4263
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Yeah and taking a chance with Okung and a later round rookie isn't a bigger chance?
It's a much more cost effective chance and gives you another potential chance next year.

Trading up not only costs more this year, it potentially costs you another chance next year.

That would be pretty dumb for a team that's in the Chiefs current position, with a wide open Super Bowl window.
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Old 03-20-2021, 05:49 PM   #4264
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It's a much more cost effective chance and gives you another potential chance next year.

Trading up not only costs more this year, it potentially costs you another chance next year.

That would be pretty dumb for a team that's in the Chiefs current position, with a wide open Super Bowl window.
Yeah and there's a chance you get the pick right and boom, you have a starter and have Mahomes protected from now until 2035.
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Old 03-20-2021, 05:50 PM   #4265
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Yeah and taking a chance with Okung and a later round rookie isn't a bigger chance?
By “later round rookie” do you mean 2nd?

Because I don’t think anybody is advocating for taking Okung and not taking a T somewhere in the first couple rounds.
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Old 03-20-2021, 05:51 PM   #4266
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Yeah and there's a chance you get the pick right and boom, you have a starter and have Mahomes protected from now until 2035.
That same chance exists with any number of guys you pick at #31. It's a slightly lesser chance but it comes without any risk of screwing you fro more than 1 year as opposed to two or more.
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Old 03-20-2021, 05:54 PM   #4267
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That same chance exists with any number of guys you pick at #31. It's a slightly lesser chance but it comes without any risk of screwing you fro more than 1 year as opposed to two or more.
That's fine. If we can get a good day 1 LT at 31, then yeah stay in the slot keep your picks and get him there. If we need to trade up for him, then we should do that too.
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Old 03-20-2021, 06:00 PM   #4268
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Hindsight is 20/20 but going after Trent Williams set this team back. We could have used that time and money on other positions of need like DE and WR.
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Old 03-20-2021, 06:02 PM   #4269
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Hindsight is 20/20 but going after Trent Williams set this team back. We could have used that time and money on other positions of need like DE and WR.
They tried getting a WR yesterday. Today they scheduled a visit with a good DE
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Old 03-20-2021, 06:05 PM   #4270
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That's fine. If we can get a good day 1 LT at 31, then yeah stay in the slot keep your picks and get him there. If we need to trade up for him, then we should do that too.
If it's a few spots, sure.

But there's no way they should trade a future 1st rounder to get into the top 12-14 picks. No way at all.
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Old 03-20-2021, 06:12 PM   #4271
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If it's a few spots, sure.

But there's no way they should trade a future 1st rounder to get into the top 12-14 picks. No way at all.
OK, then what is your plan if Okung, Villanueva are signed elsewhere, Dillard is not an option. We are setting there and your options are Eichenberg, Radunz, Hudson, etc? Then what are you going to do?
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If it's a few spots, sure.

But there's no way they should trade a future 1st rounder to get into the top 12-14 picks. No way at all.
They should. This is the 2nd or 3rd most important position in football and he will be the biggest protector for the best player in football. If they believe in someone, they absolutely should give up next year's 1st to get him.
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You'd likely have to take Jenkins at #31, if not earlier.
But I thought he was better used as a RT then a LT? I thought that is what you guys were saying.
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Hindsight is 20/20 but going after Trent Williams set this team back. We could have used that time and money on other positions of need like DE and WR.
This I totally agree with because it was a battle we weren't going to win. It is why he was vacationing in Mexico - he knew he was going to get "paid".
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OK, then what is your plan if Okung, Villanueva are signed elsewhere, Dillard is not an option. We are setting there and your options are Eichenberg, Radunz, Hudson, etc? Then what are you going to do?
At 31? Take Radunz or Eichenberg. It’s not the greatest plan and there would be growing pains but you’d be at least ok for the most part.
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