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Old 03-25-2010, 06:55 PM  
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I see Pioli taking a lot of the blame for last year's piss-ass offseason
And I agree that he deserves most of it.

But are we leaving out Todd Haley in this situation? Remember, we don't quite know about Todd. He might actually be more reeruned than Herm. Nobody really knows.

To me, it's also kind of a Catch-22 here. If Todd Haley thought Tyson Jackson was a good pick, and that signing Goff and Mike Brown were good ideas and cutting Pollard and moving to the 3-4 were all good ideas, then he deserves some blame. I mean, he thought these abysmal ideas were good. But then if he didn't think these ideas were good, they still happened under his watch, and his head coaching job during the season reflected entirely Pioli's plan for how a football team should look. And in that case, Todd deserves blame ANYWAY for being a spineless bastard and giving in wholeheartedly to the wishes of Scott Pioli, who would not take any part in building the team, coaching them, improving them, and making the final product on gameday.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:13 PM   #31
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He admitted his mistake for not playing JC and DJ. I'd say that's learning from it.
Admitting a mistake doesn't mean that you learned from it.

The underlying problem is that he seems unable to evaluate and get the ball in the hands of the team's best players
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:13 PM   #32
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Suffered what growing pains? Albert looked lost last year and 3/5ths of the line has been, or will be replaced with Waters soon behind them. Yeah, I'm really glad Goff got some experience in the new system, it did wonders for the team.
Have you been possessed or something?
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:14 PM   #33
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Suffered what growing pains? Albert looked lost last year and 3/5ths of the line has been, or will be replaced with Waters soon behind them. Yeah, I'm really glad Goff got some experience in the new system, it did wonders for the team.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:16 PM   #34
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He's in that war room.

Dick Vermeil had PLENTY of say in his drafts. Same with Herm. It's not like coaches blindly take the players that the GM gives them and are expected to mold a football team out of whatever they have.
That's a bogus point. You really think a guy 2 months into his 1st ever HC gig is gonna try and throw his weight around on the #3 over all pick? I don't think so. Haley took whatever Pioli gave him.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:18 PM   #35
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That's a bogus point. You really think a guy 2 months into his 1st ever HC gig is gonna try and throw his weight around on the #3 over all pick? I don't think so. Haley took whatever Pioli gave him.
He was under contract, wasn't he?

Are you telling us that a guy like Haley, who's paid $3 million per year, would be fired for voicing his opinion?

Wut?
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That's a bogus point. You really think a guy 2 months into his 1st ever HC gig is gonna try and throw his weight around on the #3 over all pick? I don't think so. Haley took whatever Pioli gave him.
Yeah, most successful coaches are spineless ****ing bitches.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:32 PM   #37
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Last year's offseason featured a completely different scouting department and a completely different set of coordinators. I don't think 2009 necessarily has to be seen as some kind of presage to 2010.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:51 PM   #38
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Haley is a moron.

Firing Chan a week before the season and throwing an additional 20 blocking schemes on your team = moron. Continued shuffling of players so nobody could get in synch = moron. Not playing guys like Wade Smith more often = moron. Playcalling sucked. I forget exactly but wasn't it until week 14 that KC was able to score a 1st quarter TD? So, to answer your question, yes, Haley is a moron. Hopefully Crennel and Weis can dope smack him.
You forgot making 75 mid-season transactions all related to the WR position as if that was the problem.
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Last year's offseason featured a completely different scouting department and a completely different set of coordinators. I don't think 2009 necessarily has to be seen as some kind of presage to 2010.
That's the hope, to be sure, Mr. keg in kc.

Meanwhile, I'm looking for 12 to 14 sacks from Tyson this year. And a bazillion tackles, too (hope I spelled bazillion right). And a music video. And a decent restaurant featuring a good burger and those real super crispy fries. And a haircut, maybe.

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Old 03-25-2010, 10:04 PM   #40
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I tend to believe Romeo was the plan all along
the offense falls on Haley
unless you believe Castle was forced on him -spendex might be weaved less tight
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:14 PM   #41
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Haley is a moron.

Firing Chan a week before the season and throwing an additional 20 blocking schemes on your team = moron. Continued shuffling of players so nobody could get in synch = moron. Not playing guys like Wade Smith more often = moron. Playcalling sucked. I forget exactly but wasn't it until week 14 that KC was able to score a 1st quarter TD? So, to answer your question, yes, Haley is a moron. Hopefully Crennel and Weis can dope smack him.
Just because Wade played better this year than everyone who he stepped in for does not make him a good player, so I have been told on this board. Let the guy go they say.....


Anyway, got to agree with you. Hopefully with Cren and Weis, better moves will be made, and not a million player changes as the season progresses....
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Last year's offseason featured a completely different scouting department and a completely different set of coordinators. I don't think 2009 necessarily has to be seen as some kind of presage to 2010.
DING DING DING DING!!!!

Quite frankly I thought we made decent lemonade out of a bunch lemons as the season progressed. This is the one "tell tale positive" that I was looking for in last yrs team regardless of how many wins. Did the Chiefs of '09' get better on both sides of the ball as the season progressed?? I have to say "YES". Not pretty but "YES".

This is HUGE because look at what Pioli and Haley had to work with!! Especially not having a complete scouting crew and Haley firing Gailey last minute before the season starts. I mean this is a recipe for a no win season but hell we got 4wins and both sides of the ball began to play very well the last 1/3rd of the season IMO. They were competitive all season long and in almost every game which means they didn't give up which means they believe in Haley.
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:22 PM   #43
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DING DING DING DING!!!!

Quite frankly I thought we made decent lemonade out of a bunch lemons as the season progressed. This is the one "tell tale positive" that I was looking for in last yrs team regardless of how many wins. Did the Chiefs of '09' get better on both sides of the ball as the season progressed?? I have to say "YES". Not pretty but "YES".

This is HUGE because look at what Pioli and Haley had to work with!! Especially not having a complete scouting crew and Haley firing Gailey last minute before the season starts. I mean this is a recipe for a no win season but hell we got 4wins and both sides of the ball began to play very well the last 1/3rd of the season IMO. They were competitive all season long and in almost every game which means they didn't give up which means they believe in Haley.
Can't argue with that. They really sucked, ALOT, but they never gave up and ended the season with a bang. Hopefully, it was momentum into this season. (Do not bring up the Pitt game)
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This is is HUGE because look at what Pioli and Haley had to work with!! Especially not having a complete scouting crew and Haley firing Gailey last minute before the season starts.
BULLSHIT.

BULL ****ING SHIT.

This has been discussed ad nauseam, but Pioli had a FULL contingent of scouts and IGNORED THEM.

Would you please GO THE **** AWAY?!
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Can't argue with that. They really sucked, ALOT, but they never gave up and ended the season with a bang. Hopefully, it was momentum into this season. (Do not bring up the Pitt game)
It was bullshit.

Aren't you more informed than this? Seriously?

This guy is a ****ing idiot with bullshit to spew.
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