I see Pioli taking a lot of the blame for last year's piss-ass offseason

[RealSNR]

And I agree that he deserves most of it.

But are we leaving out Todd Haley in this situation? Remember, we don't quite know about Todd. He might actually be more reeruned than Herm. Nobody really knows.

To me, it's also kind of a Catch-22 here. If Todd Haley thought Tyson Jackson was a good pick, and that signing Goff and Mike Brown were good ideas and cutting Pollard and moving to the 3-4 were all good ideas, then he deserves some blame. I mean, he thought these abysmal ideas were good. But then if he didn't think these ideas were good, they still happened under his watch, and his head coaching job during the season reflected entirely Pioli's plan for how a football team should look. And in that case, Todd deserves blame ANYWAY for being a spineless bastard and giving in wholeheartedly to the wishes of Scott Pioli, who would not take any part in building the team, coaching them, improving them, and making the final product on gameday.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by SNR

And I agree that he deserves most of it.

But are we leaving out Todd Haley in this situation? Remember, we don't quite know about Todd. He might actually be more reeruned than Herm. Nobody really knows.

To me, it's also kind of a Catch-22 here. If Todd Haley thought Tyson Jackson was a good pick, and that signing Goff and Mike Brown were good ideas and cutting Pollard and moving to the 3-4 were all good ideas, then he deserves some blame. I mean, he thought these abysmal ideas were good. But then if he didn't think these ideas were good, they still happened under his watch, and his head coaching job during the season reflected entirely Pioli's plan for how a football team should look. And in that case, Todd deserves blame ANYWAY for being a spineless bastard and giving in wholeheartedly to the wishes of Scott Pioli, who would not take any part in building the team, coaching them, improving them, and making the final product on gameday.

I have a feeling Todd Haley had very little input regarding Tyson Jackson.

[tyler360]

What is Haley supposed to do? Trash Pioli on making a horrible pick?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by tyler360

What is Haley supposed to do? Trash Pioli on making a horrible pick?

He's in that war room.

Dick Vermeil had PLENTY of say in his drafts. Same with Herm. It's not like coaches blindly take the players that the GM gives them and are expected to mold a football team out of whatever they have.

[Halfcan]

Why is everyone down on T Jack-he had lke 5 tackles-lol thats a lot for a block eater

[Fritz88]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I have a feeling Todd Haley had very little input regarding Tyson Jackson.

I am pretty sure that was the case

[Titty Meat]

Todd Haley was a first year head coach.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

If Haley's a moron, then it's on Pioli for hiring the dumb sonofabitch.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Tyson Jackson will be a solid building block for the defense going forward. Haley won't put up with nonproductivity.

[bevischief]

Tyson Jackson will be the next HC...

[FAX]

I don't think Haley's a moron ... not a real, genuine moron, anyhow.

But, I have to believe that everybody played their part in the series of strange decisions that comprised last year's off-season.

Still, everybody got off to a very late start last year. Surely to God we'll do better this year after bringing in fully qualified coordinators, a new scouting staff, and a better brand of coffee for the executives.

FAX

[Mecca]

Not all GM's give coaches any input when it comes to draft, AJ Smith told Marty to essentially shut the **** up he has no say in who they draft and that was a huge reason they didn't get along.

[DeezNutz]

4/8/28

Never forget.

[Deberg_1990]

I dont think hes a moron...But if the team has another year like last year, hes gone.

I think hes expendable. Its not like hes expensive or has ever proved anything in the league.

[whoman69]

I hardly think Haley switches to the 3-4 on the sayso of Pioli. A coach is responsible for his results on the field. They are going to make decisions based upon what they think will win games. They may have discussed it and agreed it was the way to go. No coach would agree to run a system they didn't think would work. Coaches always complain about not having final say on personnel decisions. Parcelles is famous for complaining he had to cook the meal without getting to choose the groceries. Historically coaches who have the dual GM role are not very successful.

The GM is responsible for the success of the franchise. They will listen to the coach because they are more expert in what happens on the field of play. That said, the GM makes the pick they think will help them keep their job.