Chiefs Dorsey sucks - Page 3

RedThat · 11-24-2008, 11:08 AM

Plain and simple.

Another bust of a DT

JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker?

Yeah

Not even close.

RustShack · 11-24-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Granted stats don't tell the whole story but...

Year One
Sapp 26 Tackles 3 sacks
Haynesworth 30 tackles 1 sack

Dorsey 30 tackles 1 sack with 5 games to go.

OMG! Hes already as good as Haynesworth with five games left! Bust!

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-24-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Granted stats don't tell the whole story but...

Year One
Sapp 26 Tackles 3 sacks
Haynesworth 30 tackles 1 sack

Dorsey 30 tackles 1 sack with 5 games to go.

I'd be interested to know who the 3 starting DLmen around those two players were as well.

ChiefsCountry · 11-24-2008, 11:25 AM

When Buffalo had the early drive in the game when they got down to goalline and we stuffed them the first 3 times - Dorsey and Tank were blowing shit up.

RedThat · 11-24-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Can you strain your mind a bit and go look at how other highly drafted rookie defensive linemen have performed as rookies? Or is that too difficult? He might be Ryan Sims or he might be Warren Sapp. It's stupid to throw him on the trash heap like you're doing at this point.

I believe in improvement as the season goes on. Is he showing it this year as the season goes? no.

They drafted him to be the centerpiece of the Dline, and the Dline is the worst Ive seen it. Not only the worst but the possibly the worst ever? That says enough right there.

RustShack · 11-24-2008, 11:25 AM

Seriously, people who don't understand how things in the NFL work shouldn't be aloud to create threads.

ChiefsCountry · 11-24-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Seriously, people who don't understand how things in the NFL work shouldn't be aloud to create threads.

We would have about 10 to 15 people making football threads then.

Brock · 11-24-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

I believe in improvement as the season goes on. Is he showing it this year as the season goes? no.

They drafted him to be the centerpiece of the Dline, and the Dline is the worst Ive seen it. Not only the worst but the possibly the worst ever? That says enough right there.

I don't think you're qualified to judge his progress.

Micjones · 11-24-2008, 11:27 AM

It generally takes 3 years for even the best DT's to play to their skill level.

RustShack · 11-24-2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

We would have about 10 to 15 people making football threads then.

shit, I don't know if its even that high

FringeNC · 11-24-2008, 11:28 AM

It's too early to call Dorsey a bust, but how many of Dorsey's supporters would still want to pick him if we could go back in time?

If we put Albert and Dorsey on the trading block, I'm fairly confident Albert would fetch more.

Red Dawg · 11-24-2008, 11:29 AM

No way to tell on Dorsey yet. Rookies have to be given a season to adjust.

Chiefnj2 · 11-24-2008, 11:30 AM

It's too early to declare him a bust. It isn't too early to say he sucks right now.

RedThat · 11-24-2008, 11:33 AM

For all who say it takes time,

then how do you explain the play of thigpen? hes a qb..but ive heard qb needs time too...how do you explain Flowers? he's a CB...but yet i hear CBs need time too...how do you explain Jared Allen? when he got playing time early in his career, he was getting sacks and blowing plays up...and became allpro in his 3rd, 4th year.

yeah ok Dorsey is a rookie, but he is getting owned 90% of the time he out there. Not even close to doing well. yeah he showed some flashes of blowing plays up...at the rate he is going, i dont see significant progress...he is at best looking like he could be an average player and thats being nice.

RedThat · 11-24-2008, 11:34 AM

People were saying the same thing about Hali in his rookie year...now what?

Oh yeah give him time he'll be ok

**pr_capone** · 11-24-2008, 11:34 AM

I bet you also wanted to shitcan TonyG back in his rookie year because he had trouble catching the ball and was not all that good of a blocker either, right?

Give the kid time.

He has almost no help on the D-Line so the O-Line is free to focus on him.

He could be triple teamed and we still could sack a QB.

11-24-2008, 11:08 AM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Dorsey sucks Plain and simple. Another bust of a DT JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker? Yeah Not even close.
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11-24-2008, 11:25 AM	#33
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1591248	When Buffalo had the early drive in the game when they got down to goalline and we stuffed them the first 3 times - Dorsey and Tank were blowing shit up.
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11-24-2008, 11:25 AM	#35
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11-24-2008, 11:27 AM	#38
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	It generally takes 3 years for even the best DT's to play to their skill level. __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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11-24-2008, 11:28 AM	#40
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1773986	It's too early to call Dorsey a bust, but how many of Dorsey's supporters would still want to pick him if we could go back in time? If we put Albert and Dorsey on the trading block, I'm fairly confident Albert would fetch more.
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11-24-2008, 11:29 AM	#41
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $1232858	No way to tell on Dorsey yet. Rookies have to be given a season to adjust. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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11-24-2008, 11:30 AM	#42
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	It's too early to declare him a bust. It isn't too early to say he sucks right now. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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11-24-2008, 11:33 AM	#43
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	For all who say it takes time, then how do you explain the play of thigpen? hes a qb..but ive heard qb needs time too...how do you explain Flowers? he's a CB...but yet i hear CBs need time too...how do you explain Jared Allen? when he got playing time early in his career, he was getting sacks and blowing plays up...and became allpro in his 3rd, 4th year. yeah ok Dorsey is a rookie, but he is getting owned 90% of the time he out there. Not even close to doing well. yeah he showed some flashes of blowing plays up...at the rate he is going, i dont see significant progress...he is at best looking like he could be an average player and thats being nice.
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11-24-2008, 11:34 AM	#44
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	People were saying the same thing about Hali in his rookie year...now what? Oh yeah give him time he'll be ok
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11-24-2008, 11:34 AM	#45
pr_capone THREEPEAT!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NWMO Casino cash: $9948214	I bet you also wanted to shitcan TonyG back in his rookie year because he had trouble catching the ball and was not all that good of a blocker either, right? Give the kid time. He has almost no help on the D-Line so the O-Line is free to focus on him. He could be triple teamed and we still could sack a QB.
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