Chiefs Niswanger's outlook improves ... Chiefs fans mourn - Page 3

Mr. Laz · 10-28-2009, 10:45 AM

Niswanger’s outlook improves

The outlook for center Rudy Niswanger, who left Sunday’s game with a left knee injury, had Haley “encouraged,” the coach said.

“He’s a tough guy,” Haley said, “so I wouldn’t put it past him to find a way back sooner rather than later.”

Haley said Monday that Niswanger suffered a “significant” injury and indicated that it could threaten the lineman’s season. But the coach said Tuesday that Niswanger “definitely” would play again in 2009 and that “you might see him again in two weeks” against

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**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-28-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

probably because your question makes no sense. read his post again

My question makes perfect sense.

He said this:

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Originally Posted by Laz

i love how you pick and choose which side of coin you will decide to fall on.

one player doesn't get playing time because he sucks

To which I replied:

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Who have I said isn't getting playing time because he sucks?

If he's going to make a personal claim, he should be able to back it up.

I'd like to know when I've made a comment about a player not getting playing time because he sucks.

**SAUTO** · 10-28-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i get don't know where this made up bullshit about Morgan comes from.

I think maybe goatboy was just trying grab onto any player that might get rid of Pollard and other people started to actually believe it.

Morgan has sucked in practice and preseason but he'll be great if they just gave him a chance in a real game.

What kind of stupid shit is that.

IDK? mind bottling to me. some here just want to bitch. like haley and herm just WANT good players to sit on the bench. People also bash haley and pioli for SUPPOSEDLY hating herms guys. Morgan DIDNT PLAY WHEN HERM WAS HERE. and herm drafted him. Also herm showed he wasnt scared to play rookies if they show that they deserved it. Obviously morgan hasnt shown it to two coaching staffs and two front offices to date

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-28-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i get don't know where this made up bullshit about Morgan comes from.

I think maybe goatboy was just trying grab onto any player that might get rid of Pollard and other people started to actually believe it.

Morgan has sucked in practice and preseason but he'll be great if they just gave him a chance in a real game.

What kind of stupid shit is that.

First, Morgan has been no worse than Brown in the few instances he's gotten to play.

Second, do you know what the term "raw" means when it comes to talent?

Almost every scouting report written on Morgan said he has a ton of upside, but that he's raw. He needs to PLAY, where he can learn on the fly.

We know what we're going to get out of Brown. Nothing.

So forgive some of us that would rather see a kid with some possible upside play, and see if he can turn into a serviceable or better player. We're 1-6. There is NOTHING to lose by playing him, and EVERYTHING to gain.

**SAUTO** · 10-28-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

First, Morgan has been no worse than Brown in the few instances he's gotten to play.

Second, do you know what the term "raw" means when it comes to talent?

Almost every scouting report written on Morgan said he has a ton of upside, but that he's raw. He needs to PLAY, where he can learn on the fly.

We know what we're going to get out of Brown. Nothing.

So forgive some of us that would rather see a kid with some possible upside play, and see if he can turn into a serviceable or better player. We're 1-6. There is NOTHING to lose by playing him, and EVERYTHING to gain.

honestly i would like to see him play and find out what we have also. BUT if he's obviously not getting it done in practice against OUR team then...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-28-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

honestly i would like to see him play and find out what we have also. BUT if he's obviously not getting it done in practice against OUR team then...

Getting what done in practice?

Practice during the season consists of glorified walk-throughs.

We'll never find out what we have in players based on practice. Hell, even training camp, for that matter.

If you want to find out if a guy can play in the NFL, he needs to play in real, regular season NFL games.

Practice, TC, etc are not a substitute.

**SAUTO** · 10-28-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Getting what done in practice?

Practice during the season consists of glorified walk-throughs.

We'll never find out what we have in players based on practice. Hell, even training camp, for that matter.

If you want to find out if a guy can play in the NFL, he needs to play in real, regular season NFL games.

Practice, TC, etc are not a substitute.

ok why would YOU say that he didnt get much playing time last year?

CoMoChief · 10-28-2009, 04:07 PM

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**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-28-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

ok why would YOU say that he didnt get much playing time last year?

I think if Herm was the coach now, he'd be playing ahead of Brown.

As it was last year, he had several things going against him.

One, he was a rookie.

Two, rightly or wrongly, the organization was happy with the play of Page, and barring injury, Pollard wasn't coming off the field, as they were going to give him every opportunity possible to "get it", seeing as how they invested a R2 pick on him.

In 2009, none of those apply. He's not sitting behind other young players, he's sitting behind a couple of scrub veterans.

If this truly is an "evaluation" year, then we should be evaluating our young players, correct?

Guys like Goff and Brown are getting in the way of possible progress.

Mr. Laz · 10-28-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Practice, TC, etc are not a substitute.

practice and training camp are worthless evaluation tools that the entire league uses.

brilliant

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-28-2009, 04:19 PM

At least Jizzwanker's ass will no longer be sore from having a Johnson shoved up it every week.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-28-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

practice and training camp are worthless evaluation tools that they entire league uses.

brilliant

Talking out of your ass, yet again.

Please direct me to the part of any of my posts where I said they were worthless.

If you're so ignorant to think that performance in practice and TC is a more accurate barometer to future performance than performance in a real, regular season game, then we have nothing more to discuss.

Your whole outlook on this subject seems to have more to do with opposing Clayton than actually thinking rationally on your own.

**Buehler445** · 10-28-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I think if Herm was the coach now, he'd be playing ahead of Brown.

As it was last year, he had several things going against him.

One, he was a rookie.

Two, rightly or wrongly, the organization was happy with the play of Page, and barring injury, Pollard wasn't coming off the field, as they were going to give him every opportunity possible to "get it", seeing as how they invested a R2 pick on him.

In 2009, none of those apply. He's not sitting behind other young players, he's sitting behind a couple of scrub veterans.

If this truly is an "evaluation" year, then we should be evaluating our young players, correct?

Guys like Goff and Brown are getting in the way of possible progress.

While I agree that worthless ****ers like Brown and Goff are hindering progress, I will disagree with you that if Herm was here Morgan would be starting. If Herm was here Pollard would be starting.

I will say that old guys like Vrabel and ...well...**** it, just Vrabel has been less better than worthless.

I wish Wade and Engram were more effective, but at this point I want to see if Bradley can develop.
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**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-28-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

While I agree that worthless ****ers like Brown and Goff are hindering progress, I will disagree with you that if Herm was here Morgan would be starting. If Herm was here Pollard would be starting.

I will say that old guys like Vrabel and ...well...**** it, just Vrabel has been less better than worthless.

I wish Wade and Engram were more effective, but at this point I want to see if Bradley can develop.
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True. I was going under the assumption that he had the current roster to work with.

And I agree completely on Bradley.

LaChapelle · 10-28-2009, 04:48 PM

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**SAUTO** · 10-28-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I think if Herm was the coach now, he'd be playing ahead of Brown.

As it was last year, he had several things going against him.

One, he was a rookie.

Two, rightly or wrongly, the organization was happy with the play of Page, and barring injury, Pollard wasn't coming off the field, as they were going to give him every opportunity possible to "get it", seeing as how they invested a R2 pick on him.

In 2009, none of those apply. He's not sitting behind other young players, he's sitting behind a couple of scrub veterans.

If this truly is an "evaluation" year, then we should be evaluating our young players, correct?

Guys like Goff and Brown are getting in the way of possible progress.

#1 Herm never was scared to play a rookie if he was better than what was ahead of him
#2 one word Mcgraw. he sat behind john mcgraw, and we all thought it was because herm loved him, BUT the same is happening this year. WHY? maybe morgan just doesnt "GET IT"

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