Chiefs Is it conceivable for the Chiefs to dump Pioli & Haley and get Cowher for GM & HC? - Page 3

kcbubb · 12:09 AM

I never wanted Pioli or Haley and I would love to see Cowher in KC. Is it possible?

milkman · 11-01-2009, 06:42 AM

Yours was the sperm that fertilized the egg.

Clearly anything is possible.

milkman · 11-01-2009, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

Pioli/Haley haven't went 3-30.

Details.

**BossChief** · 11-01-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The Herm/Carl Scout thing is a just a bunch of bull shit. Scouts just collect information they really have no say any football decision.

isnt that pretty much exactly what I said?

Kerberos · 11-01-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Hell, someone was going to post it.

"I do not think that means what you think it means."

milkman · 11-01-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

isnt that pretty much exactly what I said?

No.

You are trying to shift blame for the failures of Pioli/Haley in finding talent outside of the "tree" away from Pioli/haley.

CC is essentially telling you that is bull.

And he's right.

**Bwana** · 11-01-2009, 07:33 AM

Oh boy

**Bearcat** · 11-01-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

Sure. However I'll only give Cowher two games to turn this thing around, otherwise I'm getting rid of him and going after someone better.

That's what I've been sayin'... the sooner we can get the next regime in here the sooner we can start picking them apart, finding every flaw in their system/personality/work history, and endlessly bitch about them.

The Pioli/Haley bitchfest is so week 3...

TheGuardian · 11-01-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

That's what I've been sayin'... the sooner we can get the next regime in here the sooner we can start picking them apart, finding every flaw in there system/personality/work history, and endlessly bitch about them.

The Pioli/Haley bitchfest is so week 3...

Exactly.

Let's look at the trend here.....

Glenn Dorsey was a bust by week 10 of his rookie season

Tyson Jackson was a bust by the 4th game of his rookie season

Pioli after 1 offseason and 1 draft is already a failure as a GM

less than half a season into his rookie head coaching season Haley is a bust as a head coach

Albert, after a stellar rookie season already needs to be moved to another position because he's not a "natural left tackle"

If some people from CP were running the team we'd be changing coaches 4 times a year, cutting rookies and vets who had gone two games without "dominating".

We'd cut the GM if it became obvious that a certain point on the team was weak, even though there wasn't REALLY anyone available the previous offseason to upgrade it. Then they'd blame him for not finding gems all throughout the draft because you know, CP posters are pro scouts in REAL LIFE and can tell you who would have dominated as a rook.

Then we'd fire everyone, start all over again, and in 4 or 5 weeks it'd be a rinse and repeat.

smittysbar · 11-01-2009, 07:43 AM

Give him time for Christ sakes

smittysbar · 11-01-2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Exactly.

Let's look at the trend here.....

Glenn Dorsey was a bust by week 10 of his rookie season

Tyson Jackson was a bust by the 4th game of his rookie season

Pioli after 1 offseason and 1 draft is already a failure as a GM

less than half a season into his rookie head coaching season Haley is a bust as a head coach

Albert, after a stellar rookie season already needs to be moved to another position because he's not a "natural left tackle"

If some people from CP were running the team we'd be changing coaches 4 times a year, cutting rookies and vets who had gone two games without "dominating".

We'd cut the GM if it became obvious that a certain point on the team was weak, even though there wasn't REALLY anyone available the previous offseason to upgrade it. Then they'd blame him for not finding gems all throughout the draft because you know, CP posters are pro scouts in REAL LIFE and can tell you who would have dominated as a rook.

Then we'd fire everyone, start all over again, and in 4 or 5 weeks it'd be a rinse and repeat.

I don't agree with you on most things, but you nailed this one.

TheGuardian · 11-01-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar

I don't agree with you on most things, but you nailed this one.

I don't know why, I'm right more times than not.

PRIEST · 11-01-2009, 07:46 AM

The turd has not even cleared the toilet yet at least wait for it to flush.

**BossChief** · 11-01-2009, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

No.

You are trying to shift blame for the failures of Pioli/Haley in finding talent outside of the "tree" away from Pioli/haley.

CC is essentially telling you that is bull.

And he's right.

here is what I actually said though, maybe it was taken wrong...I will try to be more clear in future posts.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins View Post
It has nothing to do with the W's and L's. The problem stems from the myopic dipshittery of the regime, thinking that because players came from NE, Miami, Dallas, or Az that they are the only worthwhile NFL players. Compound that with the belief that the 3-4 is the only defense to run, and you have rampant one who sucks the penisy and ineffectiveness which belies itself in the weekly performance.

BossChief:

I agree 100%

BUT

take into consideration that Pioli is working off information by HERMS SCOUTS.

The only players he knows and trusts the scouting on are the ones he had a "hands on" process with. I understand Dimitroff handled this mostly, but man Pioli is basicallly alone right now as far as talent goes. Not saying Im giving him a pass because the players he did bring in were of the fail to the tenth power, just sayin...

During the time when getting the lackadaisical, lazy loser mentality out of the teams brain, it isnt a complete fail to bring in players that are used to being around winning.

I have given them a leash in this situation that may be a little longer than I gave in past ones because of the total fail they were willing to take over and hopefully transform into a winning franchise and their records in doing so are there for all to see.

If we are still a team getting blown out by middle of the pack teams like the Chargers during the first quarter of next year, I will open the floodgates...but I didnt really expect too much progress up to this point because of what they were given.

That fair?

If that is that far off base, we will hjust have to agree to disagree.

That is what discussion boards are for I guess. Would be hella boring if everyone agreed with everything.

Danman · 11-01-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It has nothing to do with the W's and L's. The problem stems from the myopic dipshittery of the regime, thinking that because players came from NE, Miami, Dallas, or Az that they are the only worthwhile NFL players. Compound that with the belief that the 3-4 is the only defense to run, and you have rampant one who sucks the penisy and ineffectiveness which belies itself in the weekly performance.

Don't worry about it. It's the first year for both Pioli and Haley and they have a roster devoid of talent, It's only natural to get players you're familiar with. This will become less as they acquire more talent. Besides, waiver wire pickups are at best back ups and special teams players, You're not gonna find a superbowl mvp here.

milkman · 11-01-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Exactly.

Let's look at the trend here.....

Glenn Dorsey was a bust by week 10 of his rookie season

Tyson Jackson was a bust by the 4th game of his rookie season

Pioli after 1 offseason and 1 draft is already a failure as a GM

less than half a season into his rookie head coaching season Haley is a bust as a head coach

Albert, after a stellar rookie season already needs to be moved to another position because he's not a "natural left tackle"

If some people from CP were running the team we'd be changing coaches 4 times a year, cutting rookies and vets who had gone two games without "dominating".

We'd cut the GM if it became obvious that a certain point on the team was weak, even though there wasn't REALLY anyone available the previous offseason to upgrade it. Then they'd blame him for not finding gems all throughout the draft because you know, CP posters are pro scouts in REAL LIFE and can tell you who would have dominated as a rook.

Then we'd fire everyone, start all over again, and in 4 or 5 weeks it'd be a rinse and repeat.

There's a lot of merit to what you're saying here.

However, the thing that pisses me off, and that can not be defended, IMO, is the total lack of of trying to upgrade this roster with any players outside of players that have a former association with the braintrust.

I get that every new regime likes to bring in guys they are familiar with, but have never seen any that have gone almost exclusively with those players.

I'm not exactly sure of the number anymore, with the additions made in the last couple of weeks, but it has to be something like 19 of 20 players added to this roster with previous NFL experience that have been associated with Parcells, Pioli or Haley.

That is ludicrous.

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