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Old 04-25-2010, 08:49 PM  
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What makes Eric Berry a better prospect than Earl Thomas
For all those here who watched both play- why is Eric Berry the better pick? From a production stand point it looks as if Thomas had 4 times more INTs than Berry last season.

I'm not bashing the pick at all but since I don't follow college football I'm interested.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:06 PM   #31
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Stupid Eric Berry question here, but will we be lining him up at strong safety? I've been assuming free safety the whole time, but saw something somewhere that mentioned strong safety. Honestly, I haven't paid attention because I assumed he was a free safety.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:07 PM   #32
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:07 PM   #33
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He's also bigger, faster, and has proven to be a solid football player his entire NCAA career. Earl Thomas really came on his senior year but was less of a sure thing.

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Earl Thomas came out as a sophomore.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:08 PM   #34
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I'd like to see a video with this song singing "Hallie Berry. Hallie Beeeeery"
uhhh that song exists and was the influence for the eric berry version
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I dont think it can be looked at in a vacuum.

I believe what we should look at is Berry + the #36 (McCluster) versus a #5 (Okung, Williams D or T, etc) & Thomas..

I Like the latter better, although Berry + a different #36 might have made me happier.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:12 PM   #36
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Stupid Eric Berry question here, but will we be lining him up at strong safety? I've been assuming free safety the whole time, but saw something somewhere that mentioned strong safety. Honestly, I haven't paid attention because I assumed he was a free safety.
Almost has to. That's part of why I was upset that we didn't take Mays if we weren't sold on Clausen.

Page can't play SS and there's not really another SS on the roster. So the only place Berry can really play is SS with Page at FS.

That greatly diminishes one of his greatest strengths (playmaking ability).

Just another example of a poor pick that hurts the overall roster beyond the opportunity cost.
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Earl Thomas came out as a sophomore.
That's what I meant. I knew that
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:14 PM   #38
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I dont think it can be looked at in a vacuum.

I believe what we should look at is Berry + the #36 (McCluster) versus a #5 (Okung, Williams D or T, etc) & Thomas..

I Like the latter better, although Berry + a different #36 might have made me happier.
Uh...except that Thomas went 14th overall, a whopping 9 picks after Berry.

There was no way we were getting Okung and Thomas unless you think the Seahawks were going to trade us both of their firsts to move up from 6 to 5.
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Almost has to. That's part of why I was upset that we didn't take Mays if we weren't sold on Clausen.

Page can't play SS and there's not really another SS on the roster. So the only place Berry can really play is SS with Page at FS.

That greatly diminishes one of his greatest strengths (playmaking ability).

Just another example of a poor pick that hurts the overall roster beyond the opportunity cost.

I guess that's why I'm scratching my head, too. People keep comparing him to Ed Reed, but Reed's a free safety. In fact, pretty much every first-round safety ever has been a free safety, and virtually every top-15 pick as far as I know.

It's much easier to swallow a free-safety as a top-15 pick over a strong safety.
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Stupid Eric Berry question here, but will we be lining him up at strong safety? I've been assuming free safety the whole time, but saw something somewhere that mentioned strong safety. Honestly, I haven't paid attention because I assumed he was a free safety.
Unlike the current safeties Berry can actually play run defense, so I'd say they use him at SS.
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I guess that's why I'm scratching my head, too. People keep comparing him to Ed Reed, but Reed's a free safety. In fact, pretty much every first-round safety ever has been a free safety, and virtually every top-15 pick as far as I know.

It's much easier to swallow a free-safety as a top-15 pick over a strong safety.
Ya I hope someone else can step up at safety so we can use him as a free safety.
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I guess that's why I'm scratching my head, too. People keep comparing him to Ed Reed, but Reed's a free safety. In fact, pretty much every first-round safety ever has been a free safety, and virtually every top-15 pick as far as I know.

It's much easier to swallow a free-safety as a top-15 pick over a strong safety.
Agreed.

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I guess that's why I'm scratching my head, too. People keep comparing him to Ed Reed, but Reed's a free safety. In fact, pretty much every first-round safety ever has been a free safety, and virtually every top-15 pick as far as I know.

It's much easier to swallow a free-safety as a top-15 pick over a strong safety.
Berry has the skills to play either spot.... and do well at either spot
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Playing Berry at SS with a poor NT and no ILB's to speak of = injury waiting to happen.
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