Chiefs Haley thinks Cassel's problem was the players around him - Page 3

Quesadilla Joe · 06-19-2010, 06:28 AM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rs-around-him/

After signing a $40 million contract and leaving the Patriots for the Chiefs last year, quarterback Matt Cassel saw his passer rating drop from 89.4 in 2008 to 69.9 in 2009.

Chiefs coach Todd Haley thinks that had less to do with Cassel and more to do with the players around him.

"We had 50-plus drops last season. If those don't happen, people would look at Cassel differently," Haley told ESPN.com. "If we get the improved offensive play around him that we hope to, I think people will feel better about Matt Cassel."

Haley thinks the Chiefs have improved the talent on offense, and he says Cassel is doing the necessary work this offseason to make people feel better about him.

"This guy is making progress in a bunch of ways," Haley said. "He had a very difficult year last year, but he didn't crack. That's a good sign. He has been one of our best workers this offseason, if not the best. He's working."

**Bane** · 06-19-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He's marginally talented and exceptionally compensated.

Well at least we can tell him to kick rocks after this year if he sucks ass again.Even though I doubt Pioli would do that.I think we "feature" Cassel for several more years.

TRR · 06-19-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He's marginally talented and exceptionally compensated.

There isn't a "marginally talented" player in the NFL. 90 percent of NFL players absolutely dominated on the high school level, and played for major universities at the college level.

Marginally talented football players aren't playing football on any level outside of high school/NAIA.
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Hammock Parties · 06-19-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR

There isn't a "marginally talented" player in the NFL. 90 percent of NFL players absolutely dominated on the high school level, and played for major universities at the college level.

Marginally talented football players aren't playing football on any level outside of high school/NAIA.
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He's marginally talented in relation to the rest of the league, and especially in relation to the other quarterbacks making the kind of bank he is the last two years.

milkman · 06-19-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR

There isn't a "marginally talented" player in the NFL. 90 percent of NFL players absolutely dominated on the high school level, and played for major universities at the college level.

Marginally talented football players aren't playing football on any level outside of high school/NAIA.
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Holy shit, you are such an ass.

He's a marginally talented professional player.

Hammock Parties · 06-19-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

i will say this, Castle really does try his hardest

Just Passin' By · 06-19-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

So once we surround Cassel with all Pros, people will feel better about him?

Brilliant....

Ignoring the QB play for a minute, how many of those offensive players were playing at even a decent NFL level for the first half of the season while Cassel was running for his life?

Hammock Parties · 06-19-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Ignoring the QB play for a minute, how many of those offensive players were playing at even a decent NFL level for the first half of the season while Cassel was running for his life?

How many of them were throwing 4 TD against 10 INT down the stretch in the season's second half while the players around them improved?

Just Passin' By · 06-19-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

How many of them were throwing 4 TD against 10 INT down the stretch in the season's second half while the players around them improved?

That's irrelevant to my question. Ignoring the QB, how many offensive players were playing at even a decent NFL level in the first half of the year?

Brock · 06-19-2010, 11:14 AM

I don't care who's playing with him, the guy made some absolutely horrible throws. His deep ball is especially atrocious. If Bowe and Chambers have to wait on a pass, you know your deep ball sucks.

**Bane** · 06-19-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I don't care who's playing with him, the guy made some absolutely horrible throws. His deep ball is especially atrocious.

Thats nothing $200 million cant fix. /Cassel ball washers.

milkman · 06-19-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

That's irrelevant to my question. Ignoring the QB, how many offensive players were playing at even a decent NFL level in the first half of the year?

The fact that he didn't improve, and in fact got worse as the play around him did improve, is irrelevant?

Yeah, okay, dumbass.

Just Passin' By · 06-19-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I don't care who's playing with him, the guy made some absolutely horrible throws. His deep ball is especially atrocious. If Bowe and Chambers have to wait on a pass, you know your deep ball sucks.

Name me a QB who hasn't thrown deep balls where a receiver had to wait and you'll be naming a QB who's never yet lived.

Brock · 06-19-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Name me a QB who hasn't thrown deep balls where a receiver had to wait and you'll be naming a QB who's never yet lived.

How about naming a QB whose every single deep ball is like that? I can name one for sure.

Just Passin' By · 06-19-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The fact that he didn't improve, and in fact got worse as the play around him did improve, is irrelevant?

Yeah, okay, dumbass.

Given that my question was about the first half of the season, yes it is irrelevant.

**DeezNutz** · 06-19-2010, 11:16 AM

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06-19-2010, 06:28 AM
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3408675	Haley thinks Cassel's problem was the players around him http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rs-around-him/ After signing a $40 million contract and leaving the Patriots for the Chiefs last year, quarterback Matt Cassel saw his passer rating drop from 89.4 in 2008 to 69.9 in 2009. Chiefs coach Todd Haley thinks that had less to do with Cassel and more to do with the players around him. "We had 50-plus drops last season. If those don't happen, people would look at Cassel differently," Haley told ESPN.com. "If we get the improved offensive play around him that we hope to, I think people will feel better about Matt Cassel." Haley thinks the Chiefs have improved the talent on offense, and he says Cassel is doing the necessary work this offseason to make people feel better about him. "This guy is making progress in a bunch of ways," Haley said. "He had a very difficult year last year, but he didn't crack. That's a good sign. He has been one of our best workers this offseason, if not the best. He's working."
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