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Ralphy Boy · 08-29-2010, 03:39 PM

The Sheffield injury was awful, but I thought it was very cool to see the players go out on the field in prayer. In our culture and media today we seldom see religious expression and I was rather proud to see my favorite team, in a sport I love so much, do this.

I couldn't help but wonder if an injury occured on a movie set whether the cast and crew would have done the same.

Very happy to see that he is alright.

CaliforniaChief · 08-29-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

That's just too easy.

My bad.

Hammock Parties · 08-29-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

They really must have left a bad taste in your mouths.

That's why I started using flavored lube.

**RealSNR** · 08-29-2010, 05:01 PM

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**Bearcat** · 08-29-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

People call Christians intolerant, ignorant, or closed-minded. And yet many who would use that label on Christians immediately close off to the idea that anything we believe is true.

I'm sure a lot of non-believers are raised going to Sunday school each week, so they aren't going to be immediately closed off to those ideas. Since I was one of those people, it would have been much easier for me to continue believing than to go against what family and others had been telling me for the first 15-20 years of my life. Saying non-believers are immediately closed off to the supposed power of prayer and so forth is completely baseless.

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I personally believe God had something to do with that. Now, why he walks and other guys like Utley never do, I honestly don't know.

**luv** · 08-29-2010, 05:08 PM

I'd say the players who pray in the endzone were the ones actually praying in the huddle. The remainder were there as a public display of respect.

Hammock Parties · 08-29-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

So when I hear that Cameron Sheffield is working out at Arrowhead today, I personally believe God had something to do with that. Now, why he walks and other guys like Utley never do, I honestly don't know.

Obvious answer: god is a black man.

sedated · 08-29-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

People call Christians intolerant, ignorant, or closed-minded. And yet many who would use that label on Christians immediately close off to the idea that anything we believe is true.

I think the difference is that a lot of people were raised in a religious environment, and later decided (IMO based on their level of education, no offense) that they simply didn't believe the fairytales. Then they spend the rest of their lives having religious people try to "save them". Meanwhile, the religious folk never make an attempt to understand, and perhaps its simply not possible for them.

I think I'm right in my beliefs, but will still take the time to listen and engage with an open mind, and if my mind changes over time, then so be it - I'm not scared of believing something new.

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

But I also see a wealth of evidence of God's presence and power. So when I hear that Cameron Sheffield is working out at Arrowhead today, I personally believe God had something to do with that. Now, why he walks and other guys like Utley never do, I honestly don't know.

I'm just not quick to dismiss it.

You believe whatever works for you. I believe that its' all science and chance, no supreme power. But as long as you keep your preaching to yourself and don't judge me for mine, then that's all well and good.

GoHuge · 08-29-2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Religious expression in sports makes me want to shoot an automatic weapon into a crowd.

I share your sentiments, but I'm not gonna go quite that far..........you may want to consider pumping the brakes a time or two.

Actually nice to see some analytical people that deal with reason and process thought like they have functioning brain. Well might have to check that..............it is Sunday night so the dumb ones are in church singing and holding hands right now. They'll be here soon enough to stupid this thread up a bit.

I too saw it as more of a sign of respect than it being a mass display of dumb carried out by 80 superstitious dummies.

I still like Glenn Parker's thoughts on sports and God/religion. It was right after some really good game we had when he was here. He told the story in an interview about how after the game one of his teammates came up and said to him something along the lines of "you can't tell me God didn't have some thing to do with that win" His comments were something like "yeah God blew off all the starving children and victims of war that day to come and watch over a bunch of millionaire athletes play a kid's game." My thoughts and commentary would be somewhere real close to his.

Hammock Parties · 08-29-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GoHuge39

I share your sentiments, but I'm not gonna go quite that far..........you may want to consider pumping the brakes a time or two.

Well, if we're going to do a drive-by, obviously I can unload more rounds if I'm going slower.

JD10367 · 08-29-2010, 05:16 PM

I pray for people to keep their political and religious views to themselves. But there must not be a God because I keep having to watch people fight about this shit on Intrawebz forums.

True story, though: I'm having eye surgery for a cataract in a month. My main doc referred me to a specialist in Boston who is supposedly an expert. He's written papers and has performed tens of thousands of surgeries. I said, "Cool." Then my doc said, "Just so you know, though, he's a Born-Again Christian, so you might hear him saying a prayer in the operating room or he might offer you some small prayer medal, I don't know if that would bother you or affect your decision." I said, "Dude, I don't care if he's Born-Again or if he sacrifices goats in the operating room to a pagan god; if he thinks it makes him a better doctor, and it does, then I'm all for it. I can use all the edge I can get."

milkman · 08-29-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoHuge39

I share your sentiments, but I'm not gonna go quite that far..........you may want to consider pumping the brakes a time or two.

Actually nice to see some analytical people that deal with reason and process thought like they have functioning brain. Well might have to check that..............it is Sunday night so the dumb ones are in church singing and holding hands right now. They'll be here soon enough to stupid this thread up a bit.

I too saw it as more of a sign of respect than it being a mass display of dumb carried out by 80 superstitious dummies.

I still like Glenn Parker's thoughts on sports and God/religion. It was right after some really good game we had when he was here. He told the story in an interview about how after the game one of his teammates came up and said to him something along the lines of "you can't tell me God didn't have some thing to do with that win" His comments were something like "yeah God blew off all the starving children and victims of war that day to come and watch over a bunch of millionaire athletes play a kid's game." My thoughts and commentary would be somewhere real close to his.

I'm not a man of faith, but given that response by Parker in that situation, I would have told him that God is all powerful, thus the greatest multi-tasker ever.

Brock · 08-29-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Well, if we're going to do a drive-by, obviously I can unload more rounds if I'm going slower.

Yeah, yeah. You're as meek as a lamb.

**DaFace** · 08-29-2010, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

I'm sure a lot of non-believers are raised going to Sunday school each week, so they aren't going to be immediately closed off to those ideas. Since I was one of those people, it would have been much easier for me to continue believing than to go against what family and others had been telling me for the first 15-20 years of my life. Saying non-believers are immediately closed off to the supposed power of prayer and so forth is completely baseless.

Ditto this completely.

**the Talking Can** · 08-29-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy

The Sheffield injury was awful, but I thought it was very cool to see the players go out on the field in prayer. In our culture and media today we seldom see religious expression and I was rather proud to see my favorite team, in a sport I love so much, do this.

I couldn't help but wonder if an injury occured on a movie set whether the cast and crew would have done the same.

Very happy to see that he is alright.

wtf?

because the crew on a movie set must be atheist?

did you have this thought after you were hit in the head by a hammer you were swinging?

LocoChiefsFan · 08-29-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I thought it was a nice gesture of respect. Obviously there is zero value in the actual prayer mechanism, but it was a nice show of respect for a fallen brother.

This

08-29-2010, 03:39 PM
Ralphy Boy MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Religion in Kc/football/sports/ The Sheffield injury was awful, but I thought it was very cool to see the players go out on the field in prayer. In our culture and media today we seldom see religious expression and I was rather proud to see my favorite team, in a sport I love so much, do this. I couldn't help but wonder if an injury occured on a movie set whether the cast and crew would have done the same. Very happy to see that he is alright.
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JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	I pray for people to keep their political and religious views to themselves. But there must not be a God because I keep having to watch people fight about this shit on Intrawebz forums. True story, though: I'm having eye surgery for a cataract in a month. My main doc referred me to a specialist in Boston who is supposedly an expert. He's written papers and has performed tens of thousands of surgeries. I said, "Cool." Then my doc said, "Just so you know, though, he's a Born-Again Christian, so you might hear him saying a prayer in the operating room or he might offer you some small prayer medal, I don't know if that would bother you or affect your decision." I said, "Dude, I don't care if he's Born-Again or if he sacrifices goats in the operating room to a pagan god; if he thinks it makes him a better doctor, and it does, then I'm all for it. I can use all the edge I can get."
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