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Old 11-07-2011, 10:01 AM  
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Should the NFL do a Lottery?
I happened to see a few moments of the Indy game yesterday and one thing seemed certain to me- that team is clearly NOT interested in winning football games.

I figured Miami was doing the same until yesterday's game against our hapless Chiefs.

I have to wonder if Indy is seriously losing to grab Andrew Luck?

So, should the NFL institute a Lottery draft like the NBA and NHL? To prevent teams from losing on purpose?

The first five picks in the draft go into a lottery pool? Would this field more competitiveness in the NFL? And prevent teams from losing on purpose?

I don't recall a year when a team or teams lost on purpose, but I have to think Indy is doing just that this year. I mean seriously, that team has some talent there to win a few games without Manning.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:09 PM   #31
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:09 PM   #32
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I can't believe how many people favor a system that rewards failure and punishes success.
If its anything like the NBA lottery, its pretty much the same teams in there every year. The Colts do seem to have more than their share of #1 picks as this would be the fifth time, if memory serves. Not even the Bucs can match that.

The problem with the NBA is that most years there are no real star players at the top that can turn a franchise around. They only have two rounds of players to choose from. Since the teams are so small, its more of a star driven league.

The problem with the NFL is that teams do not surround their star talent with talented players. The game is won in the trenches.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:11 PM   #33
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LOL at people who think the Colts are losing on purpose.
LOL at people who acknowledge Caldwell still has a job and think they aren't.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:12 PM   #34
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LOL at people who think the Colts are losing on purpose.
LOL at you, for not thinking they are.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:13 PM   #35
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Not just from this year, but they should like the NBA lottery. That imo is a perfect system.

the shittiest team more then likely gets the first pick, but its not 100 percent.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:14 PM   #36
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LOL at people who acknowledge Caldwell still has a job and think they aren't.
So Caldwell should be fired because the Colts front office hasn't built a more balanced team around Peyton Manning?

Caldwell's to blame for Manning missing the season?

I'm no fan of Caldwell's, but this guy was ****ed the minute Peyton went under the knife. This team sucks without him, they don't need to lose on purpose - they are just that bad.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:15 PM   #37
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Anybody else think the NBA lottery is rigged?
Yes.

Chicago got Derrick Rose.

The NBA needs Chicago to be good and to have a superstar.

Wala! Hometown boy...1.7% chance at #1...

yeah, it's rigged
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:18 PM   #38
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So Caldwell should be fired because the Colts front office hasn't built a more balanced team around Peyton Manning?

Caldwell's to blame for Manning missing the season?

I'm no fan of Caldwell's, but this guy was ****ed the minute Peyton went under the knife. This team sucks without him, they don't need to lose on purpose - they are just that bad.
Manning not worth 12 wins by himself...not even 8.

4 definitely, maybe even 6-7.

no way any one player is that good.

this season will not only net the Colts Luck, it will make Manning look like the greatest QB of all time, even though he isn't even the best QB of his generation (that's Tom Brady).
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:20 PM   #39
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Manning not worth 12 wins by himself...not even 8.

4 definitely, maybe even 6-7.

no way any one player is that good.

this season will not only net the Colts Luck, it will make Manning look like the greatest QB of all time, even though he isn't even the best QB of his generation (that's Tom Brady).
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Hope you have a chin strap for your tinfoil hat, the rest of this season is going to be a bumpy ride.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:25 PM   #40
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LOL at you, for not thinking they are.
LOL at both of you for thinking that an entire organization has gotten together and determined that they would tank the season for a shot at an unproven QB.

If that actually happened....you would have players demanding trades. Shit...you would have players demanding to be released.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:25 PM   #41
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It looks to me that Manning is worth 10 wins.
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In fairness, the question shouldn't be if Peyton Manning is better than some third string backup. The question is, if you put an average QB like Matt Cassel or Kevin Kolb on the Colts, how many games would they win? I think the Colts are probably good enough that those guys could probably squeeze 5-6 wins. So Peyton's important, but saying he's 10 wins better than the average QB is off.

Because it doesn't matter what team you put Curtis Painter on. On most teams, he's losing at least 10 games. He's that bad.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:25 PM   #44
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lottery is stupid but necessary

Top 5 teams in draft order should draw for it in a weighted lottery. Only way to keep teams from "sucking for xxxxx"

no need to televise that stupid shit though
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It looks to me that Manning is worth 10 wins.
I was reading Ron Jaworski's book ("Games That Changed the Game") about a week ago and he mentioned a time when he was in Indy watching the Colts practice. Jaws asked Tom Moore why the backup QBs didn't get any reps in practice and what they would do if Manning went down.

"Fellas, if '18' goes down, we're ****ed. And we don't practice ****ed."


As for the lottery idea, I don't like the idea of it (although I hate that the dumbshit Irsay won't keep his trap shut about Luck), but if the NFL thinks they could make money & get good ratings off of making a lottery a yearly televised event (they would), I can easily see them doing it. I definitely don't want them to, though. Seems like in the NBA, teams like the Minnesota Timberwolves are awful every year and never get the #1 pick because of the lotto. Not a fan.
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