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Old 02-26-2017, 07:07 PM  
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Berry hopeful for a long-term deal, unwilling to play on tag
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Safety Eric Berry said he was hopeful he could come to an agreement on a long-term contract with the Chiefs before Wednesday's deadline for teams to designate franchise players. "I'm just being patient because you never know . . . I'm not getting my hopes up," Berry said. Berry said he hasn't changed his earlier stance that he wouldn't play with the Chiefs for the second straight season on the franchise tag. "I still stand by that," Berry said.
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Old 02-26-2017, 09:09 PM   #31
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Old 02-26-2017, 09:10 PM   #32
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Old 02-26-2017, 09:30 PM   #33
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The Chiefs likely aren't going to part ways with Houston anytime soon, so they could convert almost all of his like 16 million base into a SB. After this year they can do a lot of cost-cutting.
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Old 02-26-2017, 10:12 PM   #34
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They'll get a deal done. He's the type of player the Chiefs have historically made long term commitments to.

Not without some posturing and not without CP on suicide watch, but I'm guessing a deal will get done before the season.
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Old 02-26-2017, 10:45 PM   #35
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The transition tag is the way to go.
I'm surprised nobody in the media has brought it up. I know a lot of them read CP and I've been taking about it for weeks.

The smartest thing KC can do with Berry is transition tag him. See what he can get on the open market and decide to give him true market value or let him walk if it's too much...but that's fair to Berry and the team.

If KC franchise tags Berry, that 13m goes on the books -in full- the moment he's tagged. That would hurt a team that's so close to the cap, like KC.

It would severely limit what the team can do at other positions...especially if Berry sticks to his word and sits out.
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Old 02-26-2017, 10:48 PM   #36
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I'm surprised nobody in the media has brought it up. I know a lot of them read CP and I've been taking about it for weeks.

The smartest thing KC can do with Berry is transition tag him. See what he can get on the open market and decide to give him true market value or let him walk if it's too much...but that's fair to Berry and the team.

If KC franchise tags Berry, that 13m goes on the books -in full- the moment he's tagged. That would hurt a team that's so close to the cap, like KC.

It would severely limit what the team can do at other positions...especially if Berry sticks to his word and sits out.
If he's not going to play under the franchise tag, he's not going to play under the transition tag either.
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Old 02-26-2017, 10:50 PM   #37
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If he's not going to play under the franchise tag, he's not going to play under the transition tag either.
You don't play under a transition tag. It just gives your team rights to first refusal if you get a contract offer.
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Old 02-26-2017, 10:54 PM   #38
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If he's not going to play under the franchise tag, he's not going to play under the transition tag either.
What do you mean?

The transition tag means Berry is basically an unrestricted free agent thats free to negotiate with all 32 teams.

Once he agrees to a contract with another team, KC has 7 days for the right to sign Eric to that exact contract or to let him walk and get no compensation.

It's basically a "right of first refusal".
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What do you mean?

The transition tag means Berry is basically an unrestricted free agent thats free to negotiate with all 32 teams.

Once he agrees to a contract with another team, KC has 7 days for the right to sign Eric to that exact contract or to let him walk and get no compensation.

It's basically a "right of first refusal".
But it's taking leverage away from him that he would have if he were a UFA, isn't it? I don't see any reason why he would negotiate with other teams at all. Why couldn't he just say he's holding out regardless unless he gets the deal he wants?

How many times has it been used in recent years, and the original team retained the player in the end?
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Old 02-26-2017, 11:20 PM   #40
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I'm glad there's not already a thread on this that's been on the front page for the last 6 months.
Glad to have a fresh thread for new developments. I seldom check mega threads after a week or so.
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Old 02-26-2017, 11:25 PM   #41
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But it's taking leverage away from him that he would have if he were a UFA, isn't it? I don't see any reason why he would negotiate with other teams at all. Why couldn't he just say he's holding out regardless unless he gets the deal he wants?

How many times has it been used in recent years, and the original team retained the player in the end?
The a Broncos used it on CJ Anderson last offseason and it helped them sign him long term.
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The transition Tag would be good for Berry. For the Chiefs I think not so much.
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His demands must be insane. Last year it didn't happen and now it's not happening again. Greedy bastard can go **** himself and take all his bullshit love talk with him. We did right by him and now he's acting like an asshole.
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