Chiefs The Butterfly Effect- Chiefs Edition - Page 3

Brooklyn · 01-13-2023, 06:19 AM

Okay, simple rules to this bud week thought exercise. Change any one single play in a game to affect a better/different outcome for the Chiefs. Curious how many plays it would take to get a theoretical dynasty, or just a view to how close to dominant we’ve been. I’ll start:

1. Dee Ford lines up onsides ‘8 AFCCG
2. Eric Fisher’s Achilles doesn’t tear ‘20 AFCCG
3. Tyreek Hill makes the end zone at half ‘21 AFCCG

Not hard to argue the Chiefs are going for SB win #5 in a row if those 3 plays just ended a little different. Of course the butterfly effect could also have negative impact as a result but let’s assume not to change too much other history and keep it light and fun.

Some more plays to think about,

- no end zone PI call vs the Raiders in their walk off win
- Kelce doesn’t fumble in Q4 vs the bengals this year

What else ya got?

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KC_Lee · 01-13-2023, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

What if a certain kicker didn't miss 3 field goals?
What if Denver was properly penalized for greasing their jerseys?

What if a certain kicker didn't miss 3 field goals? KC beats Dallas 21 - 17

What if Denver was properly penalized for greasing their jerseys? KC loses to Green Bay 24 - 10

FloridaMan88 · 01-13-2023, 10:25 AM

Simple… if the Chiefs had a QB like Mahomes in the 1990’s they would have won multiple Super Bowls.

I know people refute that saying a QB like Mahomes would not coexist with a Martyball/defense-first team… but remember Marty did try to transition away from ground and pound to a more open/West Coast offense in the mid-1990’s but he ultimately never had the QB.

Kman34 · 01-13-2023, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

Don't be scared of the tit. Spilt milk is left for the pets

Do you ever have a coherent football take??

**wazu** · 01-13-2023, 10:51 AM

Hell no to this entire thread. Everything that has happened was en route to building a true dynasty. If Dee Ford lines up onsides we probably keep Sutton forever, for example. I don't know what happens with Eric Fisher healthy but it sparked a complete and much needed overhaul of our offensive line.

ThaVirus · 01-13-2023, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Would not have mattered, I think. The lined up offsides play was with less than a minute to go, iirc, because I was watching that game at Santisi Bros. with my buddies and i went ballistic when Ward intercepted Brady; we thought the game was over before we saw the flag.

We were winning that game 28-24 with less than a minute to go. Even Bob wouldn't have been able to **** that up.

Dee Ford lining up offsides and us losing that game was the catalyst for replacing Sutton.

He's saying we may be worse off now if Ford lined up properly because we probably still have Sutton.

seclark · 01-13-2023, 11:08 AM

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DJ's left nut · 01-13-2023, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Brooklyn

What else ya got?

My 'John Baker killed Derrick Thomas' theory.

Baker's SOLE JOB on the roster was kickoffs. Stoyo was doing placekicking, Pope was punting.

The last game of the season the Chiefs need to win to make the playoffs.

That ****ing knucklehead kicks THREE balls OOB. Once with a minute left in the half, setting the Raiders up with great field position whereupon they immediatley march downfield and score a TD to go up 28-24.

The Chiefs battle back to send the game to overtime and ****-knuckle immediately puts ANOTHER one OOB. The Raiders again start in great field position, drive down the field and kick a game-winning FG.

The Chiefs lose and miss the playoffs. 2 weeks later, when the Chiefs should've either been preparing for another playoff game or at least doing some end of season wrap-up, Derrick Thomas is instead driving to the airport on snow covered roads and getting into the car accident that would eventually kill him.

If they play a week later, I think it's fair to say enough would've changed that he's either on a different flight or not on the plane at all. Or shit, maybe he leaves 20 minutes later, has a different car in front of him and changes lanes in a way that avoids the ice patch.

John Baker killed Derrick Thomas. Because he couldn't keep a !@#$ing kick in bounds.

AdolfOliverBush · 01-13-2023, 11:13 AM

Start Gannon in the playoffs vs. Denver, tell Grbac to **** his mother.

KC wins a ring, Denver doesn't, and the Raiders never sign Gannon. Gruden does squat with the Raiders and is out of the NFL after a few seasons.

**ptlyon** · 01-13-2023, 11:14 AM

My God I totally forgot that game. That really defines Because Chiefs.

RunKC · 01-13-2023, 11:15 AM

If the Colts never ****ed up Luck and Ballard inherited a healthy version of him, think of the playoff picture:

Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Luck
Lamar
Lawrence
Herbert

That would be insane

displacedinMN · 01-13-2023, 11:17 AM

1989- (i think)Derrick Thomas goes for the tackle, not the iNT vs Miami

1995-Lin Elliot is aborted

1997-The weather is not -20 vs Denver

1992-We dont shit the bed vs SD-that team was not going any where

2010-get a first down

2013-Aborted the DC

2016-Aborted Carl Cheffers

2017-Refs understand forward progress

2020-Refs dont throw 9 ghost penalties

DJ's left nut · 01-13-2023, 11:17 AM

God dammit - now I'm mad a John Baker again.

Screw this thread...

Gary Cooper · 01-13-2023, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

What if a certain kicker didn't miss 3 field goals? KC beats Dallas 21 - 17

What if Denver was properly penalized for greasing their jerseys? KC loses to Green Bay 24 - 10

The 1995 Chiefs were not beating the Cowboys in the Super Bowl. You're talking about Steve Bono and no offensive weapons versus a dynasty full of Hall of Famers.

I agree they beat the Steelers in the AFCCG, though I'm more confident about the Chiefs beating the Steelers in 1997 than in 1995.

The Chiefs/Packers in 1997 would be a good question I've thought about a bit. The Packers likely win because of the QB disparity but maybe our defense shuts down Favre and forces some of his infamous INTs. That 1997 Chiefs team had something magical going on. I just wish Gannon started in the playoffs but Marty was a stubborn mule.

Gary Cooper · 01-13-2023, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN

1989- (i think)Derrick Thomas goes for the tackle, not the iNT vs Miami

1995-Lin Elliot is aborted

1997-The weather is not -20 vs Denver

1992-We dont shit the bed vs SD-that team was not going any where

2010-get a first down

2013-Aborted the DC

2016-Aborted Carl Cheffers

2017-Refs understand forward progress

2020-Refs dont throw 9 ghost penalties

You forgot 2003. Likely not beating New England on the road but that defensive shitshow against the Colts should have gotten the DC fired.

displacedinMN · 01-13-2023, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

You forgot 2003. Likely not beating New England on the road but that defensive shitshow against the Colts should have gotten the DC fired.

I dont remember that game well. But I will give it to you.

01-13-2023, 06:19 AM
Brooklyn Starter Join Date: Sep 2011 Casino cash: $1999730	The Butterfly Effect- Chiefs Edition Okay, simple rules to this bud week thought exercise. Change any one single play in a game to affect a better/different outcome for the Chiefs. Curious how many plays it would take to get a theoretical dynasty, or just a view to how close to dominant we’ve been. I’ll start: 1. Dee Ford lines up onsides ‘8 AFCCG 2. Eric Fisher’s Achilles doesn’t tear ‘20 AFCCG 3. Tyreek Hill makes the end zone at half ‘21 AFCCG Not hard to argue the Chiefs are going for SB win #5 in a row if those 3 plays just ended a little different. Of course the butterfly effect could also have negative impact as a result but let’s assume not to change too much other history and keep it light and fun. Some more plays to think about, - no end zone PI call vs the Raiders in their walk off win - Kelce doesn’t fumble in Q4 vs the bengals this year What else ya got? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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