John Dorsey

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Go get him!

[The Bad Guy]

I don't know what the hold up is. I was told it was essentially done 2 nights ago.

The Packers can't really block him. It's semantics and there's no way the Packers can prove he won't have significant say. He doesn't need final say to leave as long as the Chiefs give him a GM title.

[Bowser]

How long has Dorsey held his current position with the Packers?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I don't know what the hold up is. I was told it was essentially done 2 nights ago.

The Packers can't really block him. It's semantics and there's no way the Packers can prove he won't have significant say. He doesn't need final say to leave as long as the Chiefs give him a GM title.

“Final say” could become an issue for G.M. hire in Kansas City
Posted by Mike Florio on January 3, 2013, 5:23 PM EST
dorsey_john

With Andy Reid reportedly poised to become the next coach of the Chiefs (of course, it’s been close for six hours now), plenty of names are bubbling up for the position of G.M., if/when Reid takes the job.

Here’s the most important thing to keep in mind when assessing who may end up in that job. If it’s a guy like Packers director of operations John Dorsey, the Chiefs technically would have to offer him final say in order to wrest him away from Green Bay, if he’s still under contract and if the Packers opt not not to release him from it.

Of course, plenty of teams have given “final say” to the G.M. even though the coach was actually in charge. It happened when the Browns hired George Kokinis from the Ravens and when the Dolphins hired Jeff Ireland from the Cowboys. Teams generally don’t like to pick fights over these issues, and Dorsey has been a long-time, loyal employee of the franchise. So maybe he wouldn’t need a cheesecake with a file in it to get out of Wisconsin.

Still, regardless of who it ends up being, the issue of “final say” could become an issue in hiring a G.M.

[O.city]

Bad Guy is hearing something from someone directly involved in the situation, yet you area arguing with him?

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by O.city

Bad Guy is hearing something from someone directly involved in the situation, yet you area arguing with him?

Nope All I'm saying is the Chiefs need to offer him final say.

[malachi47000]

Originally Posted by Bowser

How long has Dorsey held his current position with the Packers?

Biography

Has served four tenures in Green Bay: first as a player (1984-89); second as a college scout (1991-1997) and director of college scouting (1997-98); third as director of college scouting (2000-2012); and fourth as the current director – football operations (2012-present).
Served on the NFL College Advisory Committee.
A linebacker during his playing days, was a fourth-round pick of the Packers in 1984, enjoying a five-year career in Green Bay.
A four-year starter at Connecticut (1980-83), was named Defensive Player of the Year in the Yankee Conference each of his final two collegiate seasons, also earning Division I-AA All-America recognition as a senior. Is a member of the school’s 100th Anniversary All-Time Football Team, selected in 1998.


John Dorsey, now in his 22nd year in NFL player personnel, was promoted to director — football operations in May 2012, his fourth tenure in Green Bay. He previously served 12 years as the Packers’ director of college scouting.

An effective player for the Packers during the 1980s, Dorsey oversees the college side of Green Bay’s scouting operations, and also is actively involved in the area of pro personnel.

Brought back to the team as director of college scouting on May 8, 2000, by then-Executive Vice President/General Manager Ron Wolf, the 52-year old Dorsey earlier had been a key component in Green Bay’s personnel operations for nine highly successful years. First hired as a college scout in May 1991 with a focus on linebackers, he was retained by Wolf the following year and, ultimately, was promoted to head up the Packers’ college scouting department on Feb. 27, 1997, succeeding John Math, who retired.

Hired as director of player personnel for the Seattle Seahawks on Jan. 26, 1999, as he followed former Packers coach Mike Holmgren to the West Coast, Dorsey resigned that position just over a year later, leaving shortly after the 2000 NFL Draft.

Selected by Green Bay in the fourth round of the 1984 draft, beginning his initial Packers employment, Dorsey played five seasons for the team (1984-88) at linebacker and on special teams before spending a final year on injured reserve in 1989. He totaled 130 tackles as a pro, in addition to two fumble recoveries and one pass defensed. Dorsey led Green Bay’s special teams in solo tackles in three of his first four seasons, a level of play which helped earn him selection as the Packers’ special teams captain. His 35 special teams tackles in 1984 are still a club record. Possessor of a streak of 76 consecutive non-strike games played, Dorsey saw that string end when he suffered a freak knee injury in pregame warmups of the team’s ’89 season opener.

A four-year starter at the University of Connecticut (1980-83), Dorsey was named Defensive Player of the Year in the Yankee Conference during each of his final two collegiate seasons and is the all-time leading tackler in the now-defunct conference’s history. He also earned Division I-AA All-America recognition as a senior and, in 1998, he was selected to the school’s 100th Anniversary All-Time Football Team. In 2002, Dorsey was inducted into the Anne Arundel (Md.) County Sports Hall of Fame. He graduated with bachelor’s degrees in economics and political science.

Heavily involved in the community throughout his playing career, especially with the Wisconsin Cystic Fibrosis Foundation, Dorsey currently serves on the board of “65 Roses.” He was voted as the Packers’ Man of the Year in 1987 for his civic contributions. At the professional level, Dorsey is on the board of directors for National Football Scouting and is a former member of the NFL College Advisory Committee. He is also a member of the NFL Scouting Combine selection committee, and is a voting member of the collegiate Butkus Award (given to the nation’s top linebacker). Dorsey is the only NFL voting member of the Harris Interactive College Football Poll.

Dorsey was born Aug. 30, 1960, in Leonardtown, Md. He and his wife, Patricia A. Sexton-Dorsey, reside in De Pere, Wis. He also is the father of three sons, Bryant, 25, Austin, 21, and Jack, 1, and a daughter, Catherine, 3.

In his spare time, Dorsey enjoys playing golf, reading and running – having completed two marathons.

http://www.packers.com/team/staff/jo...d-4d693e8586bd

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Nope All I'm saying is the Chiefs need to offer him final say.

I was told they have to offer him a general manager job. It's semantics who has the final say.

The Packers have granted permission to talk to him. Once they do that, it's my understanding, if he's receiving a promotion, which the title clearly is, he can leave.

It's like a team hiring a QB coach away from another team to be their QB coach and offensive coordinator and not having him call plays on gameday. It's still a promotion financially and responsibility wise.

Dorsey would get both here as well.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

“Final say” could become an issue for G.M. hire in Kansas City
Posted by Mike Florio on January 3, 2013, 5:23 PM EST
dorsey_john

With Andy Reid reportedly poised to become the next coach of the Chiefs (of course, it’s been close for six hours now), plenty of names are bubbling up for the position of G.M., if/when Reid takes the job.

Here’s the most important thing to keep in mind when assessing who may end up in that job. If it’s a guy like Packers director of operations John Dorsey, the Chiefs technically would have to offer him final say in order to wrest him away from Green Bay, if he’s still under contract and if the Packers opt not not to release him from it.

Of course, plenty of teams have given “final say” to the G.M. even though the coach was actually in charge. It happened when the Browns hired George Kokinis from the Ravens and when the Dolphins hired Jeff Ireland from the Cowboys. Teams generally don’t like to pick fights over these issues, and Dorsey has been a long-time, loyal employee of the franchise. So maybe he wouldn’t need a cheesecake with a file in it to get out of Wisconsin.

Still, regardless of who it ends up being, the issue of “final say” could become an issue in hiring a G.M.

In four paragraphs, Florio says nothing of substance.

[O.city]

I thought this would be announced yesterday, wonder what the holdup is? Maybe they are wanting to wait and announce GM, DC, OC all at the same time?

[keg in kc]

I wonder if it's possible that the experience with ***** (and his contract) has created some issues. i.e. things we want in Dorsey's contract.

[The Bad Guy]

The Chiefs have only interviewed Farmer for the job and he's talking to Cleveland now.

It's Dorsey's job. I just can't get any response as to what the holdup is.

[O.city]

Hate to bug you Bad Guy, but whats the word on the Cardinals and Horton?

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by O.city

Hate to bug you Bad Guy, but whats the word on the Cardinals and Horton?

When I get any new info, I'll post it.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

When I get any new info, I'll post it.

Or you could just post some made-up shit now, Athan style.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Or you could just post some made-up shit now, Athan style.

Or post it several days later and treat it like breaking news.