Football Has there ever been a more insecure QB than Baker Mayfield? - Page 30

RunKC · 09-27-2019, 03:43 PM

Can’t believe this guy is still being looked at as a “future star”. If anybody should be compared to Jay Cutler, it’s him.

Actually..he’s worse

He talked shit on the Texas QB while he’s in the NFL, he took shots at his old coach who wasn’t even with the team anymore and continued doing it in the offseason, he talked shit on Rex Ryan and now he’s talking shit on Instagram comments.

Good God you dumb mother****er. You would think he spends as much time doing this petty bullshit as he does studying for a game.

He has shown talent, but man this guy is not someone you want on your team when things aren’t going well.

More reason to be thankful we have Mahomes.

NJChiefsFan · 12-30-2019, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

Johnny Manziel 2.0

We'll see if he develops a coke habit here soon and pisses it all away.

That would hurt I'd imagine.

Third Eye · 12-30-2019, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

That would hurt I'd imagine.

You’d be surprised, cocaine is a great numbing agent. Not that I’d know, but that’s what I hear.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-30-2019, 10:47 PM

I don’t think most of us are that surprised.

This is who he has been his whole life. This is the same dude that tried to run from the police back at OU, grabbed his crotch on the sideline, etc etc.

A real John Dorsey guy.

PhillyChiefFan · 12-31-2019, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I don’t think most of us are that surprised.

This is who he has been his whole life. This is the same dude that tried to run from the police back at OU, grabbed his crotch on the sideline, etc etc.

A real John Dorsey guy.

Makes me very grateful to have a class act in Mahomes to cheer for.

His little tantrums and skirmishes with fans make me laugh but would be embarrassing if I were a Browns fan.

Megatron96 · 12-31-2019, 03:32 PM

It'll be interesting to see who his next HC is and how that relationship either helps him to mature or allows him to wallow in his insecurities.

As an OU fan, I hope he gets a good HC that can help him turn the corner.

KCRon · 12-31-2019, 03:54 PM

I think arrogance arrived before success did with him.

KCRon · 12-31-2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

Makes me very grateful to have a class act in Mahomes to cheer for.

His little tantrums and skirmishes with fans make me laugh but would be embarrassing if I were a Browns fan.

Mahomes definitely is a class act and is a fellow East Texas guy. I've just recently signed on here and he's a big reason why.

**lewdog** · 12-31-2019, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KCRon

Mahomes definitely is a class act and is a fellow East Texas guy. I've just recently signed on here and he's a big reason why.

Welcome.

Let’s ****ing go Chiefs!!!

Setsuna · 01-01-2020, 01:01 AM

His only hope is if his wife puts him in his place. She's become accustomed to a certain lifestyle and his mouth is jeopardizing it.

**Baby Lee** · 01-01-2020, 01:51 AM

I'm not making a prediction on Mayfield, but as a general proposition, I just can't wrap my head around attitude problems being an unfixable impediment, particularly compared to not having pocket presence or not having touch on your passes.

Maybe move it completely away from the NFL, I firmly believe Phil Jackson could handle all manner of head cases if the talent was there. He was blessed with Jordan and Pippen, but he could have made magic with an Iverson, or a Lambier, or even a Shawn Kemp. Look at how he handled Rodman for Christ's sake.

Absent head trauma or some shit, and unless they are just a plain bad seed like Hernandez or Carruth, it's the essence of a HC job to get the personnel in the right mindset, to be prepared, to be poised, to be alert, to be focused.

If someone can't throw 50 yards on a rope, there isn't a coach on earth who can teach you to. If someone can't stand in the pocket without shitting their skivvies, there isn't a coach on earth who can instill that in you. But if you have physical skills, there HAS TO BE a coach who can get your mind right. Appeal to ego, appeal to competitiveness. Appeal to vanity. Appeal to fear. Show trust if it helps. Show parental love if it helps. Show stern monitoring if it's required . . . find the levers that bring out the best and yank them heartily. That's coaching.

For the most part, underachieving talent is a coaching failure above all other failures.

Bradshaw was a sensitive and emotional soul who hated Knoll with a passion that would bring him to tears, but Knoll handled him in a particular way that led to the league's first dynasty, while leaning on Bradshaw's mental and emotional state a good deal.

Not everyone can be a self-starter in all facets like Mahomes, or Farve and Manning and Starr and on and on before him. But talent can be corraled. It can't be bestowed, but if it's there it can be corraled.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-01-2020, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I'm not making a prediction on Mayfield, but as a general proposition, I just can't wrap my head around attitude problems being an unfixable impediment, particularly compared to not having pocket presence or not having touch on your passes.

Maybe move it completely away from the NFL, I firmly believe Phil Jackson could handle all manner of head cases if the talent was there. He was blessed with Jordan and Pippen, but he could have made magic with an Iverson, or a Lambier, or even a Shawn Kemp. Look at how he handled Rodman for Christ's sake.

Absent head trauma or some shit, and unless they are just a plain bad seed like Hernandez or Carruth, it's the essence of a HC job to get the personnel in the right mindset, to be prepared, to be poised, to be alert, to be focused.

If someone can't throw 50 yards on a rope, there isn't a coach on earth who can teach you to. If someone can't stand in the pocket without shitting their skivvies, there isn't a coach on earth who can instill that in you. But if you have physical skills, there HAS TO BE a coach who can get your mind right. Appeal to ego, appeal to competitiveness. Appeal to vanity. Appeal to fear. Show trust if it helps. Show parental love if it helps. Show stern monitoring if it's required . . . find the levers that bring out the best and yank them heartily. That's coaching.

For the most part, underachieving talent is a coaching failure above all other failures.

Bradshaw was a sensitive and emotional soul who hated Knoll with a passion that would bring him to tears, but Knoll handled him in a particular way that led to the league's first dynasty, while leaning on Bradshaw's mental and emotional state a good deal.

Not everyone can be a self-starter in all facets like Mahomes, or Farve and Manning and Starr and on and on before him. But talent can be corraled. It can't be bestowed, but if it's there it can be corraled.

Big Ben and cam are pretty good examples. I agree. It's not like manziel with off field distractions. It's not like TO with on field distractions. The dude is offputtingly arrogant. You can harness some of that confidence into good and minimize the negatives that comes with. Not get rid of, just limit it.

**notorious** · 01-01-2020, 10:03 AM

An Alpha dog coach needs to come in and put a foot in his ass.

Teach him to harness his “**** you” in the right direction.

I think he can be decent, but needs a man at coach. An offensive line that doesn’t completely suck will help, too.

Chris Meck · 01-01-2020, 10:06 AM

I've said it already, but Bienemy would be a really great hire for the Browns.

jimidollar · 01-01-2020, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I don’t think most of us are that surprised.

This is who he has been his whole life. This is the same dude that tried to run from the police back at OU, grabbed his crotch on the sideline, etc etc.

A real John Dorsey guy.

This is how I knew Baker wouldn't be great. He couldn't even outrun a couple of cops. ****ing weak.

**Baby Lee** · 01-01-2020, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Big Ben and cam are pretty good examples. I agree. It's not like manziel with off field distractions. It's not like TO with on field distractions. The dude is offputtingly arrogant. You can harness some of that confidence into good and minimize the negatives that comes with. Not get rid of, just limit it.

I'm still kind of intrigued by Jameis in TB. He seems to have a great attitude from a competitiveness and willingness to work standpoint, but he has massive mental deficits in decision making.

The NFLs first 30-30 QB and an ostensible QB guru is a fascinating experiment. Glad it's not on my dime, but it remains intriguing to monitor.

09-27-2019, 03:43 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1640389	Has there ever been a more insecure QB than Baker Mayfield? Can’t believe this guy is still being looked at as a “future star”. If anybody should be compared to Jay Cutler, it’s him. Actually..he’s worse He talked shit on the Texas QB while he’s in the NFL, he took shots at his old coach who wasn’t even with the team anymore and continued doing it in the offseason, he talked shit on Rex Ryan and now he’s talking shit on Instagram comments. Good God you dumb mother****er. You would think he spends as much time doing this petty bullshit as he does studying for a game. He has shown talent, but man this guy is not someone you want on your team when things aren’t going well. More reason to be thankful we have Mahomes. Attached Thumbnails
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6599447	I don’t think most of us are that surprised. This is who he has been his whole life. This is the same dude that tried to run from the police back at OU, grabbed his crotch on the sideline, etc etc. A real John Dorsey guy.
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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-1959600	It'll be interesting to see who his next HC is and how that relationship either helps him to mature or allows him to wallow in his insecurities. As an OU fan, I hope he gets a good HC that can help him turn the corner.
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Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $8028275	I'm not making a prediction on Mayfield, but as a general proposition, I just can't wrap my head around attitude problems being an unfixable impediment, particularly compared to not having pocket presence or not having touch on your passes. Maybe move it completely away from the NFL, I firmly believe Phil Jackson could handle all manner of head cases if the talent was there. He was blessed with Jordan and Pippen, but he could have made magic with an Iverson, or a Lambier, or even a Shawn Kemp. Look at how he handled Rodman for Christ's sake. Absent head trauma or some shit, and unless they are just a plain bad seed like Hernandez or Carruth, it's the essence of a HC job to get the personnel in the right mindset, to be prepared, to be poised, to be alert, to be focused. If someone can't throw 50 yards on a rope, there isn't a coach on earth who can teach you to. If someone can't stand in the pocket without shitting their skivvies, there isn't a coach on earth who can instill that in you. But if you have physical skills, there HAS TO BE a coach who can get your mind right. Appeal to ego, appeal to competitiveness. Appeal to vanity. Appeal to fear. Show trust if it helps. Show parental love if it helps. Show stern monitoring if it's required . . . find the levers that bring out the best and yank them heartily. That's coaching. For the most part, underachieving talent is a coaching failure above all other failures. Bradshaw was a sensitive and emotional soul who hated Knoll with a passion that would bring him to tears, but Knoll handled him in a particular way that led to the league's first dynasty, while leaning on Bradshaw's mental and emotional state a good deal. Not everyone can be a self-starter in all facets like Mahomes, or Farve and Manning and Starr and on and on before him. But talent can be corraled. It can't be bestowed, but if it's there it can be corraled. Last edited by Baby Lee; 01-01-2020 at 01:58 AM..
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