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Old 01-22-2023, 04:45 PM  
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Let’s talk about the Bengals (AFC Championship Rd)

Welp this game has been on everyone’s minds since the start of the season.

Let’s get some revenge goddamnit!
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:06 PM   #436
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Against the Bengals, sacks dont matter! I know that sounds dumb but Burrow does not get rattled, it does not effect his play. He's been sacked 9 times in a game and still won. That doesnt mean we shouldnt sack him but its not as important as it would be against other opponents.

Pressure will be key, nearly instant pressure will effect the game. Burrow consistently gets the ball out in 2.5 seconds or less. That is how the inexperienced O line has held up.

This means the secondary has to cover tight for 3 seconds! No 5 or 8 yard cushions. Bump them at the line, disrupt the timing for just a second.

This is how you defend their Offense, sacks are great but the 2-3 seconds after the snap is crucial.
The DL needs to get their hands up and tip the ball at the line of scrimmage. Chris Jones needs to do the type of stuff he did to Jimmy G in the Super Bowl. Burrow had 24 batted balls this season, which was the highest in the league despite playing 1 less game than most QB's.
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:07 PM   #437
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Thx for that tidbit. Hopefully Pat won't have to scramble much in this one, but if I were CIN I'd be blitzing a lot more than they have previously. It'll be interesting to see what they do. And how Andy will counter.
If the Bengals blitz a ton, you can print your Super Bowl tickets now.

I don't care if Mahomes is hobbled. Nobody eats the blitz like the Chiefs.
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:08 PM   #438
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They matchup well with us.
Field goal has won it each time for the difference.
Hopefully our team comes out swinging.

They mauled the bills in the trenches.
Our oline needs to have pat not get touched.

We can win. But it won't be easy.

I do find their fans funny. For all the shit we get, they are easily worse.
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:08 PM   #439
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The DL needs to get their hands up and tip the ball at the line of scrimmage. Chris Jones needs to do the type of stuff he did to Jimmy G in the Super Bowl. Burrow had 24 batted balls this season, which was the highest in the league despite playing 1 less game than most QB's.
The Chiefs actually have the most batted passes in the NFL.

Clark/Karlaftis/Dunlap/Jones and others are built for it.

God, I am so hungry for this game.

On paper, I just like the Bengals too much, but I'm starting to talk myself into KC all of a sudden.
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:09 PM   #440
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Against the Bengals, sacks dont matter! I know that sounds dumb but Burrow does not get rattled, it does not effect his play. He's been sacked 9 times in a game and still won. That doesnt mean we shouldnt sack him but its not as important as it would be against other opponents.

Pressure will be key, nearly instant pressure will effect the game. Burrow consistently gets the ball out in 2.5 seconds or less. That is how the inexperienced O line has held up.

This means the secondary has to cover tight for 3 seconds! No 5 or 8 yard cushions. Bump them at the line, disrupt the timing for just a second.

This is how you defend their Offense, sacks are great but the 2-3 seconds after the snap is crucial.
Incorrect. If you throw him off his timing he will throw it up for grabs but you gotta actually throw him off his timing.

You do that by hammering his targets relentlessly.
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:10 PM   #441
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A Kelce fumble is not rare, I'm sad to say. But I wouldn't bet on it this week. Kelce will be out for blood.

I agree with your analysis otherwise. Gives me some hope.

The Bengals, on paper, may very well be the better team. But the Chiefs have everything you need: a team rallying around their beloved QB, a GOAT caliber QB willing to die on the field if it gets them the win, good counter-punch options on offense across the board, a defensive line playing very loose, the best linebacker corps we've had in the 21st century, and a ton of young, hungry talent in the secondary.

This isn't the best Chiefs team of all time, but it's probably Top 8. And with Mahomes out for blood, they're going to punch above their weight.

I trust Burrow and the Bengals to roll with the punches and deliver their own haymakers, but I don't think this is going to be a route either way unless Mahomes goes ham.
I guess it's not as rare as I thought, but 6 fumbles in the last 8 years isn't exactly bad for a guy with 100 receptions every year.
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:12 PM   #442
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If the Bengals blitz a ton, you can print your Super Bowl tickets now.

I don't care if Mahomes is hobbled. Nobody eats the blitz like the Chiefs.
Maybe. I hope so.

But Mahomes hasn't been as good vs. pressure as he has in the past, because KC only has two real man-beater receivers in Kelce and probably Toney. You can say MVS can as well to a certain extent because of his rare speed and Andy's scheming have made him more than just a go-route WR, but really it's Kelce and Toney at short to intermediate passes.
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:17 PM   #443
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The Chiefs actually have the most batted passes in the NFL.

Clark/Karlaftis/Dunlap/Jones and others are built for it.

God, I am so hungry for this game.

On paper, I just like the Bengals too much, but I'm starting to talk myself into KC all of a sudden.
I don't remember them batting any passes in the previous game, but who knows. It was pretty much an abortion of a defensive performance. Bengals shot themselves in the foot twice deep in KC territory or they would have scored 38 points in that game, despite the fact KC's offense kept them on the sidelines for a huge chunk of the game. 430 yards of offense and only 1 punt for the Bengals in that game. That's pretty rough.

Who knows if KC's defense can have a better performance this time. Tackling & coverage has to be a million times better, DL physicality needs to be much better. Meanwhile the Chiefs offense with a gimpy QB is going against a Bengals defense that just held an explosive Buffalo offense to only 10 points.
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Hoping and praying Spags comes up with a stellar game plan to keep Burrows off balance. Totally expect CJ to find his sack mojo and obliterate Burrows on Sunday. If the secondary can just lock it down for an extra second or two: I like CJ's odds vs. anyone on the Bengals O-line.
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:30 PM   #445
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They matchup well with us.
Field goal has won it each time for the difference.
Hopefully our team comes out swinging.

They mauled the bills in the trenches.
Our oline needs to have pat not get touched.

We can win. But it won't be easy.

I do find their fans funny. For all the shit we get, they are easily worse.
Hasn’t Butker missed a kick in each game?
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:37 PM   #446
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Their Oline was new and improved and like us last year, it took them time to gel. They were very good from Halloween on, until they started dropping like flies. The Bills crowd wasn't loud and their D-front is abysmal without Von. It will be a different animal in Arrowhead with the noise and 3 new lineman.
OK, bud. Given our recent matchups, I think it's more likely that we won't make Burrow uncomfortable at all.

I hope you're right though!
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:40 PM   #447
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Incorrect. If you throw him off his timing he will throw it up for grabs but you gotta actually throw him off his timing.

You do that by hammering his targets relentlessly.
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Yeah, thats what Im saying. Instant pressure, physical with the WRs right off the line. No cushion, tight coverage. And Yes, hit the WRs every chance you get!

Disrupt the timing! Its a couple seconds, if you can get him to throw an errant pass or hold the ball a little longer, BOOM!

Of course that isnt as easy as it would seem.
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Hasn’t Butker missed a kick in each game?
Obviously he missed one in the most recent game. I don't think he missed any kicks in the AFC title game. I think he missed one in the regular season 2021 game against Cincy. So that's 2 missed kicks in 3 games. Meanwhile the Cincy kicker never seems to miss from what I can tell.
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Rewatched a few Bengals games from the offensive side of the ball (Burrow on the field).

Bills played by far the most soft zone coverage (we've seen this from them in the past). Just a miserable gameplan against Burrow with a banged up oline.

The Bengals WR's were open and Burrow was on time because the Bills REFUSED to slow them down at the line of scrimmage. Burrow was never bothered because everything was on time. Nothing was disrupted at all.

Watch the Chiefs game vs. Bengals and its the total opposite. Press man almost every drive. Not ideal but it definitely created some timing issues and will probably force Burrow to hold on to the ball a bit longer. Chiefs generated more pressure than the Bills and should be able to pressure Burrow at least a little bit this week. Bills defensive game plan was not good.
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Yeah, thats what Im saying. Instant pressure, physical with the WRs right off the line. No cushion, tight coverage. And Yes, hit the WRs every chance you get!

Disrupt the timing! Its a couple seconds, if you can get him to throw an errant pass or hold the ball a little longer, BOOM!

Of course that isnt as easy as it would seem.

Bills were almost exclusively soft zone, Chiefs were almost exclusively press man.

Our young CB's are super sticky. Burrow was able to pump it in a few times in the first game. He's gonna need to do that again.
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