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Old 01-05-2014, 02:42 PM  
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We need to extend Alex Smith
Alex played the game of his life and he was BETRAYED by the defense

Alex Smith dropped 44 points on the Colts and somehow still lost. Alex is a hero. 44 points can win you a SUPERBOWL. What happened to the best defense in the league? They sure weren't out there tonight. You could cut all of them and it wouldn't matter. What matters is having Alex.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:30 PM   #451
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Yeah, again my point stands
Your point is $#it...
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:30 PM   #452
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Listen to yourself.

Ok, we had a chance for our D to prevent them from scoring like a DT/Smith/Hasty showdown.

Did they do it?

Did any defensive player decide to take the game over in the 2nd half?

No...
But it isn't just the Defense. I would adjust that statement to "Did any Chiefs player/coach decide to take the game over in teh 2nd half?"

I have stated that I like Smith a lot and agree with an extension at the right price but everyone on the team laid down in last 25 minutes of the game.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:31 PM   #453
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and Smith didn't get it done. If he did I'd concede I was wrong.
It's a team game man. He did his job exceedingly well. He even made the pass that should have won it. Bowe got pushed out of bounds (before the ball arrived too...not that it ****in matters now).

But if you wanna nitpick, the overthrow to Gray could have been caught. The intentional grounding was a play where he was ****ed as soon as he dropped back. Best case scenario, he takes the sack and we wouldn't have lost as many yards as we did with the penalty. The play where he fumbled was just a great individual play by a great pass rusher. He can't win every single ****ing snap for christs sake. THe problem with that - in this game he almost had to because our defense lost a 28 point lead and lost a game where we scored 44.

Look, I bitched a ton about Smith this season, but he clearly got better and better as the year went on, and he played very well in our biggest game in 10 seasons. If he plays like that, or anywhere close to that, and our defense plays like it is capable of when we drop some of the dead weight and coordinate things a little better, we'll be an elite team. I'm good with an elite ****in team, let me tell ya.
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Reid has some responsibility in that. He was calling screen passes all the 2nd half instead of deep passes.
Definitely agree with that too.
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Old 01-08-2014, 10:34 PM   #455
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fumble, missing open targets then the grounding penalty.
Grounding penalty cost the chiefs an extra two yards. The person responsible for that play bloWing up is Albert who missed his cut block and allowed his defender to be in the throwing line for the designed screen to mccluster. The only open receiver he missed was grey (which was very painful) but understandable given that they'd never run it with grey before. Not to mention the grey admitted he slowed when he was looking for the ball.
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Your point is $#it...
Did he win? No, he didn't I said before the game the offense needed to play flawlessly he was doing just that in the 1st half but after the Mathis sack/fumble he didn't overcome the incident. Then it became additive missed opportunities.
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My point is in the NFL presently you HAVE to win those track meets if shit happens. Alex blew his chance
So you blame Brady or Manning and think one of them isn't good enough...got it.
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But it isn't just the Defense. I would adjust that statement to "Did any Chiefs player/coach decide to take the game over in teh 2nd half?"

I have stated that I like Smith a lot and agree with an extension at the right price but everyone on the team laid down in last 25 minutes of the game.
We have 5 pro bowlers on defense.

DID ANY OF THESE ****S STEP UP AND PUT THIS GAME AWAY?

DID ANY OF THEM SHINE AND TAKE OVER THE GAME WHEN IT WAS WINABLE?

DID ANY OF OUR ****ING 5 PRO BOWL PLAYERS CHANGE THE GAME?

No.

No, they didn't.

We have some very good players on this team that we've tricked ourselves into thinking are great. They're not.

Houston MIGHT end up being that if he can stay healthy and continue to progress. And he's our best hope, by a long shot.
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So you blame Brady or Manning and think one of them isn't good enough...got it.

Going to the tangent defense nice.
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Oh, and just for the record you shitbag, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning teams never gave up more than 41 points in a playoff game.

Tom Brady is 0-2 when his defense gives up 30 or more, Peyton Manning is 2-3, with one win coming against the Chiefs in 03, and his last win coming in 2006.
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Going to the tangent defense nice.
Look. It wasn't Alex's fault.

The guy played a fantastic game, and for literally THE FIRST TIME IN NFL HISTORY, that effort wasn't good enough.

You are being obtuse.
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Oh just for the record, that was THE ABSOLUTE WORST defense I've seen in one half from a Chiefs team as long as I've been watching. And that's saying something considering the Vermeil era and some other shitty defenses we've put out there in our history.
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Look. It wasn't Alex's fault.

The guy played a fantastic game, and for literally THE FIRST TIME IN NFL HISTORY, that effort wasn't good enough.

You are being obtuse.
He had his chances but didn't get it done. If he did, I'd be singing a different tune.
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Did he win? No, he didn't I said before the game the offense needed to play flawlessly he was doing just that in the 1st half but after the Mathis sack/fumble he didn't overcome the incident. Then it became additive missed opportunities.
So after 38 pts it's HIS fault the game was lost?

Look, I'm no Smith fan. I hate the trade. I hate what we gave up. I hate he'll never be a Brady or Montana type.

But in no way is this on him.

Our D got lazy and let them back in thinking it couldn't happen...
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He had his chances but didn't get it done. If he did, I'd be singing a different tune.
You're good people so I'll drop this.

I completely disagree.

We move on...
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