Bills/ Bengals [cancelled - process in OP]

[cmh6476]

In case anyone needs it spelled out, we would play at a neutral site if the AFCCG ends up being Chiefs vs. Bills. All other scenarios abide by the usual rules (so any other game the Chiefs play will be at home).

Old posts:

Spoiler!

The NFL will consider a neutral site for the AFC Championship Game. Full details: pic.twitter.com/oi3fItUWIj

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 6, 2023

Breaking News: Of course the game is secondary to #DamarHamlin’s health, but #Bills insider @viccarucci just reported on @wgrz Daybreak that NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will make the call on rescheduling the Bills/Bengals game and it would have to be played within 2 days.

— Melissa Holmes (@2MelissaHolmes) January 3, 2023

There is another option according to @viccarucci - the league can add a 19th week so the Bills/Bengals can get in all their games. @wgrz https://t.co/1X1hCHVN8c

— Melissa Holmes (@2MelissaHolmes) January 3, 2023

I assume we'll hear something soon

After speaking with both teams and NFLPA leadership, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell informed the clubs today that the Bills-Bengals game will not be resumed this week.

The NFL has made no decision regarding the possible resumption of the game at a later date.

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 3, 2023

[digger]

My biggest thing was that they made some decision before the game started today.
Al the very least they did do that...

[Rainbarrel]

The things people have to do everyday just to survive. Makes the NFL so out of touch. Considering the good charity work they do, looks bad

[Chief3188]

Originally Posted by DaFace

A tie (or no contest) benefits teams with a lead in the standings and hurts teams who are behind. That's just the math. That's why we ended up looking pretty good, the Bills came out well against the Bengals but poorly against us, the Bengals came out well against the Ravens but poorly against us and the Bills, and the Ravens got pushed out of the divisional race.

It has nothing to do with the Bills getting an "imaginary" win.

But it is though. If they had lost or tied the game should it have been played to completion, then the Chiefs could have won the 1 seed with full HFA. But now if we both win that gets taken away.
I have no problem with the game being stopped but it should have been played on Wednesday. The NFL has really catered to the Bills this year and it looks really bad in my opinion.

1. Changed the overtime rules because Joshy didn't get the Ball even though the same thing happened to Mahomes previously.
2. Moved a snow game against a rushing based team (Anyone remember when they lost in the snow to the Patriots with Mac Jones throwing like 2 or 3 passes?) to a dome which favors their offensive skillset. They did this rather than moving up the game (Like the Chiefs had to do in 2005 when they moved up a game to Friday with 2 days notice which made the Chiefs the first team to have to fly and play the same day I think) or moving it back.
3. Allowed them to cancel a game they were losing without forfeit.
4. Completely ignored their own rulebook and created a fantasy scenario for PR purposes to allow them the benefit of not playing one of their hardest games of the season which again I will emphasize they were losing at the time.
5. Basically ensures that even if they lose the 1 seed to KC that they won't have to play in Arrowhead again this postseason.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by Chief3188

1. Changed the overtime rules because Joshy didn't get the Ball even though the same thing happened to Mahomes previously.
2. Moved a snow game against a rushing based team (Anyone remember when they lost in the snow to the Patriots with Mac Jones throwing like 2 or 3 passes?) to a dome which favors their offensive skillset. They did this rather than moving up the game (Like the Chiefs had to do in 2005 when they moved up a game to Friday with 2 days notice which made the Chiefs the first team to have to fly and play the same day I think) or moving it back.
3. Allowed them to cancel a game they were losing without forfeit.
4. Completely ignored their own rulebook and created a fantasy scenario for PR purposes to allow them the benefit of not playing one of their hardest games of the season which again I will emphasize they were losing at the time.
5. Basically ensures that even if they lose the 1 seed to KC that they won't have to play in Arrowhead again this postseason.

To see it all laid out like this really is enough to make you puke your guts out.

What a goddamn joke.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Chief3188

But it is though. If they had lost or tied the game should it have been played to completion, then the Chiefs could have won the 1 seed with full HFA. But now if we both win that gets taken away.
I have no problem with the game being stopped but it should have been played on Wednesday. The NFL has really catered to the Bills this year and it looks really bad in my opinion.

The problem with all of this is that you're griping about losing the CHANCE that the Bills would lose, and the Bills are griping about the CHANCE of winning and preventing us from getting the 1 seed at all. You can't claim that we were cheated out of the former without acknowledging that it might have gone the latter direction just as easily.

[DaFace]

Look, if it's hard to understand that the Chiefs came out the best out of this situation by far, here it is by the numbers:

If we take Seth's calculations at face value, then relative to a 50/50 coin flip of CIN-BUF (or if game had actually been played), the NFL effectively took 26% of BUF's chances for 1 seed, and 8% of CIN's chances for a 1 seed, and gave it all to the Chiefs (51% --> 85% for KC) pic.twitter.com/QmmUG1edOO

— Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) January 6, 2023

Yes, we lost the chance of HFA in one game, but it's hard to argue that we didn't benefit from this.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Look, if it's hard to understand that the Chiefs came out the best out of this situation by far, here it is by the numbers:

If we take Seth's calculations at face value, then relative to a 50/50 coin flip of CIN-BUF (or if game had actually been played), the NFL effectively took 26% of BUF's chances for 1 seed, and 8% of CIN's chances for a 1 seed, and gave it all to the Chiefs (51% --> 85% for KC) pic.twitter.com/QmmUG1edOO

— Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) January 6, 2023

Yes, we lost the chance of HFA in one game, but it's hard to argue that we didn't benefit from this.

I believe strongly that the Bills were headed towards a loss on Monday night before the game got stopped. I also believe we'll beat the Raiders today. How am I supposed to believe that all of this nonsense somehow benefits the Chiefs?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Spott

They also get HFA in the divisional round against Cincy, which is the only time they would play each other in the playoffs assuming we win today. If anything, this is the game that should have been played at a neutral site.

If they both win this weekend, that would be the case anyway. If the Bengals win and the Bills lose to the Patriots, then they should just go off the regular tie-breaking procedure like their first game never existed.

Like I've been saying, both teams agreed to the no contest and acting like the game never existed (even if the Bengals were trying to be nice or whatever), they shouldn't turn around and compensate the Bengals in any way when it comes to Bills vs Bengals in the standings just because it was the Bills' player who got hurt.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Chief3188

But it is though. If they had lost or tied the game should it have been played to completion, then the Chiefs could have won the 1 seed with full HFA. But now if we both win that gets taken away.
I have no problem with the game being stopped but it should have been played on Wednesday. The NFL has really catered to the Bills this year and it looks really bad in my opinion.

1. Changed the overtime rules because Joshy didn't get the Ball even though the same thing happened to Mahomes previously.
2. Moved a snow game against a rushing based team (Anyone remember when they lost in the snow to the Patriots with Mac Jones throwing like 2 or 3 passes?) to a dome which favors their offensive skillset. They did this rather than moving up the game (Like the Chiefs had to do in 2005 when they moved up a game to Friday with 2 days notice which made the Chiefs the first team to have to fly and play the same day I think) or moving it back.
3. Allowed them to cancel a game they were losing without forfeit.
4. Completely ignored their own rulebook and created a fantasy scenario for PR purposes to allow them the benefit of not playing one of their hardest games of the season which again I will emphasize they were losing at the time.
5. Basically ensures that even if they lose the 1 seed to KC that they won't have to play in Arrowhead again this postseason.

The Ukraine Bills

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Chief3188

But it is though. If they had lost or tied the game should it have been played to completion, then the Chiefs could have won the 1 seed with full HFA. But now if we both win that gets taken away.
I have no problem with the game being stopped but it should have been played on Wednesday. The NFL has really catered to the Bills this year and it looks really bad in my opinion.

1. Changed the overtime rules because Joshy didn't get the Ball even though the same thing happened to Mahomes previously.
2. Moved a snow game against a rushing based team (Anyone remember when they lost in the snow to the Patriots with Mac Jones throwing like 2 or 3 passes?) to a dome which favors their offensive skillset. They did this rather than moving up the game (Like the Chiefs had to do in 2005 when they moved up a game to Friday with 2 days notice which made the Chiefs the first team to have to fly and play the same day I think) or moving it back.
3. Allowed them to cancel a game they were losing without forfeit.
4. Completely ignored their own rulebook and created a fantasy scenario for PR purposes to allow them the benefit of not playing one of their hardest games of the season which again I will emphasize they were losing at the time.
5. Basically ensures that even if they lose the 1 seed to KC that they won't have to play in Arrowhead again this postseason.

This really is an incredible breakdown of unprecedented bullshit.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The problem with all of this is that you're griping about losing the CHANCE that the Bills would lose, and the Bills are griping about the CHANCE of winning and preventing us from getting the 1 seed at all. You can't claim that we were cheated out of the former without acknowledging that it might have gone the latter direction just as easily.

The problem is, with Damar stabile and improving they should have finished the game...Period. Do you think if the Bills would have came out and said "We want to try and keep the one seed and keep on a path of our ultimate goal of winning a Superbowl for Damar and the City of Buffalo", that this game wouldn't have resumed Tuesday or Wednesday. They knew it was a tall task down 2 starting Dbacks and were most likely to lose. As others have pointed out, if they were up 24-7 or playing the AZ Cardinals 1 qtr. in, do they choose to resume the game? We know the answer...

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by wazu

I believe strongly that the Bills were headed towards a loss on Monday night before the game got stopped. I also believe we'll beat the Raiders today. How am I supposed to believe that all of this nonsense somehow benefits the Chiefs?

If we're going to make this a debate about how accurately a rival fan with a ton of rooting interest against the Bills can predict the outcome of a game...I don't really know what we're doing here. Even if you assume that the Bengals were 70% likely to win that game (which is more than the models would suggest), we STILL come out well ahead statistically (since the "no contest" immediately takes that 70% and makes it 100%).

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Ukraine Bills

Please don't tell me what team represents Russia.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

If they both win this weekend, that would be the case anyway. If the Bengals win and the Bills lose to the Patriots, then they should just go off the regular tie-breaking procedure like their first game never existed.

Like I've been saying, both teams agreed to the no contest and acting like the game never existed (even if the Bengals were trying to be nice or whatever), they shouldn't turn around and compensate the Bengals in any way when it comes to Bills vs Bengals in the standings just because it was the Bills' player who got hurt.

The Bengals agreed to the no contest with the current rules in place. In that situation, they could have rested players this weekend and basically had an extended bye as they were locked into the 3 with a guaranteed home playoff game. The NFL moved the goalpost by deviating from their rule book on Thursday Eve...

[Spott]

Originally Posted by wazu

Please don't tell me what team represents Russia.

Any team with Tom Brady.