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Old 10-18-2009, 09:31 AM  
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Peyton Manning

So...

Do you guys still think Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning?

Everyone always said that he played with the better supporting cast...which is why Tom was better.

Now Peyton is playing behind a terrible offensive line and throwing to the likes of Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon...having arguably his best year ever...just like I always said...it wasn't the OTHER players...it was Peyton Manning.

So...

Is Brady still better than Manning?

Just curious.

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Old 02-09-2010, 07:25 PM   #571
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well considering I can tell exactly how old you are by the way you post...pretty much.

It must suck to be so young and naive and predictable.

Or maybe you are 15? 16? Did I overshoot it a few years?
You are the most obnoxious and immature person on this entire board. You brag about how immature you are.

I'd accuse you of sophistry if you knew what it was, but the reality is this: you're hypocrite who doubles as a dumb mother****er who thinks that because he shouts the most his opinion matters most.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:27 PM   #572
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Now your ignorance is building legendary levels.
Why?

Peyton Manning has better postseason numbers than Tom Brady and they've both lost games for their teams in dramatic fashions and have won games for their teams where they were lights out.

Tom Brady was only a primary factor in one of their Super Bowl wins (Carolina)...

For every season ending pick thrown by Manning, I can match it with Brady...

Tom Brady has only won one Super Bowl where his team wasn't the overwhelming favorite to win...and when he was (like Manning this year), his team lost in the Super Bowl and scored a season low number of points.

The fact people think Brady is so clutch is hilarious. And false.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:27 PM   #573
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well considering I can tell exactly how old you are by the way you post...pretty much.

It must suck to be so young and naive and predictable.

Or maybe you are 15? 16? Did I overshoot it a few years?
It must suck to be so attached to someone who has no idea who you are and who you jack off to every night.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:28 PM   #574
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Hootie has displayed a truly appalling amount of relativism in this, and basically every thread, in which he's proven wrong time and time again.

Manning is the GOAT of all time because he makes Marvin Harrison into one of the most productive receivers ever. Eddie Kennison would have had just as good of a career.

Tonight? Manning's downfall is blamed on Reggie Wayne.

Collie and Garcon mean nothing, he can do it with anyone, then Brees has a better supporting cast.

Manning only made one bad throw the entire game?

Well, what about that overthrow on 3rd down on the first drive that cost them a chance to get 7?

What about that bad decision on the out route on the game changing drive before he thew a ball that was almost intercepted by Jenkins?

Let's also remember that the Colts had twice as many yards rushing as the Saints, the same number of rushing attempts, so their running game was far more productive.

The Colts defense also gave Manning a turnover on the 2 yard line, basically saving him from having to score another 7 points.

Manning is the offensive coordinator and coach of the team, he calls all the plays and waves the punt team off the field...unless there are two minutes left in the half and then all of a sudden all calls go directly through Caldwell, who's never called an offensive play in his life.

The entire game flipped on the Garcon drop, but not the Colston drop.

What an embarrassing display.

Yeah, Manning played well last night. But he's the most important player on the team, and the other guy's most important player outperformed him, despite having no help from a running game. Manning also faced absolutely no pressure last night, save for one play.

And he threw a pick six.

Drew Brees was better when he had to be better.

Just like Tom Brady was better than Manning when he had to be.

Manning is an all-time great QB, but the fact remains that Montana won 4 SBs, including making a longer drive that Manning couldn't with half the time, and every time Manning has faced a truly top shelf QB in the playoffs, his record is:

1-6

Brady: 1-2
Brees: 0-1
Rivers: 0-2
McNair ('99 version): 0-1

Meanwhile, his wins in the playoffs have come against the following:

Trent Green: 2-0
McNair (washed up '06 version)
Rex Grossman
Joe Flacco
Mark Sanchez (rookie)
Jake Plummer: 2-0

(We won't bash him for losses against Jay Fiedler, Chad Pennington, or 2nd year game manager Ben Roethlisberger here)

Manning is far more Wilt Chamberlain than he is Bill Russell.

I'm just going to keep posting this, so Hootie can continue to dodge it.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:28 PM   #575
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I'm just going to keep posting this, so Hootie can continue to dodge it.
I was just about to look for that post.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:30 PM   #576
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How is Brady a clutch QB?

Brady has never been any more or any less clutch than Manning in the postseason.


You just lost all credibility buddy..
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:31 PM   #577
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You just lost all credibility buddy..
I would agree, but he never had credibility to begin with.
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I'm just going to keep posting this, so Hootie can continue to dodge it.
what am I dodging?

If Joe Montana was a Saint his entire career...

Would he have been 4-0 in the Super Bowl?

Would he have played in a Super Bowl?
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I would agree, but he never had credibility to begin with.
This.
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no...

you're just all fanboys that don't realize Tom Brady being clutch is a total, complete myth.

quick

name the last time he was clutch

...
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no...

you're just all fanboys that don't realize Tom Brady being clutch is a total, complete myth.

quick

name the last time he was clutch

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buffalo this year.
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no...

you're just all fanboys that don't realize Tom Brady being clutch is a total, complete myth.

quick

name the last time he was clutch

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Everyone is wrong...except Hootie.

Do you hear what you're saying (typing)?
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what am I dodging?

If Joe Montana was a Saint his entire career...

Would he have been 4-0 in the Super Bowl?

Would he have played in a Super Bowl?
You never saw the 1993 Chiefs did you? If you did you wouldn't be saying stupid shit like this.
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Why?

Peyton Manning has better postseason numbers than Tom Brady and they've both lost games for their teams in dramatic fashions and have won games for their teams where they were lights out.

Tom Brady was only a primary factor in one of their Super Bowl wins (Carolina)...

For every season ending pick thrown by Manning, I can match it with Brady...

Tom Brady has only won one Super Bowl where his team wasn't the overwhelming favorite to win...and when he was (like Manning this year), his team lost in the Super Bowl and scored a season low number of points.

The fact people think Brady is so clutch is hilarious. And false.
Peyton Manning has won 0 Super Bowls where his team wasn't the overwhelming favorite to win.

Peyton Manning has lost 7 games in the playoffs while being favored to win.

Peyton Manning is 9-9 career in the Playoffs.

Tom Brady is 14-4.

Tom Brady has beaten Donovan McNabb, Peyton Manning twice, Phil Rivers twice, Kurt Warner, a prime Steve McNair, and Rich Gannon in the playoffs.

Manning beat Brady once.

In the one Super Bowl Brady lost, he drove his team the length of the field and scored a TD with 3 minutes left.

In the one Super bowl Manning lost, he drove his team to the twenty and threw a game ending pick 6 with 3 minutes left.
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I'm just going to keep posting this, so Hootie can continue to dodge it.
and you're bashing him for losses against Rivers and Roethlisberger where he played well enough to win...

and you're bashing him for a '99 loss where he turned a 3-13 team coming off his rookie season where he turned it around to 13-3 before losing to a BETTER Titans team...

I mean come the **** on...everyone knew they were overachievers that year...they lost 19-16...nice reference.

AND

The only time Peyton has played bad in the postseason was 2003 and 2004 at Foxborro against a better AND heavily favored Patriots team...

And both games the Patriots DEFENSE won that game...as much as Peyton lost it...AND Brady didn't do anything but manage those games...he was nothing special...

The Patriots D on the other hand...

Such a ****ing joke that Brady gets all the credit.
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