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Old 03-18-2022, 02:20 PM  
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Old 03-18-2022, 08:32 PM   #571
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JuJu is the same age and in a similar kind of career crossroad that Sammy Watkins was at when the Chiefs signed him in 2018 (for a much bigger $$$ contract than JuJu).
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Old 03-18-2022, 08:33 PM   #572
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In related news how many other free agent safeties have been signed over Mathieu during free agency so far?

Apparently it’s not just the Chiefs who don’t think his current value matches what he thinks it is.
Also, he has his own special set of social media issues.
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Old 03-18-2022, 08:52 PM   #575
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Hardman was pretty good toward the end of the season. Hope he builds on that.
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Old 03-18-2022, 08:58 PM   #576
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Old 03-18-2022, 09:01 PM   #578
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JuJu is just going to feast here.

Either Kelce or JuJu go off in every game now.
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Old 03-18-2022, 09:11 PM   #579
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Yeah, that YAC ability is nice. Especially for a guy who is going to be seeing a lot of light formations.

Going to be interested to see what Reid does with him.
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When news broke that the Kansas City Chiefs were signing former Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster to a one-year, $10.75 million deal, the numbers made sense. Despite being relatively cap-tight, the Chiefs could have freed up the necessary space with a procedural Patrick Mahomes restructuring, and roughly $11 million for one year wasn't shocking for Smith-Schuster on a one-year deal.

Incentives are commonplace in NFL contracts, offering players bonuses for good performances and giving teams some protection from a player who may disappoint on a new deal. But Smith-Schuster's specific situation may have brought a unique wrinkle to the Chiefs' deal with their new receiver.

First, a quick disclaimer: this is speculative. From here on out, we're connecting dots without a complete picture, as of the publishing of this article. But, if my tinfoil hat theory has any merit, the Chiefs did something fun (yes, fun!) with the Smith-Schuster contract.

There are two types of incentives in NFL contracts: "likely to be earned" and "not likely to be earned." As summarized by NFL.com:

Player incentives are considered "likely to be earned" (LTBE) or "not likely to be earned" (NLTBE) based on the player or team's prior-year performance. For example, if a player has a $500,000 incentive for accumulating 10 sacks in the upcoming season and he had 10 sacks the previous season, the incentive is considered LTBE. If he did not record 10 sacks in the previous season, the incentive is considered NLTBE.

Why does that matter? If a player has a "likely to be earned" incentive, the team has to account for that incentive money in the current year's salary cap. If a player has a "not likely to be earned" incentive, that money — if earned — would apply to the next year's cap.

In 2021, Smith-Schuster suffered a season-ending shoulder injury early in the year. Ultimately, he caught just 15 passes for 129 yards and zero touchdowns. Therefore, if the Chiefs wanted to offer Smith-Schuster a deal packed with NLTBE incentives, they could do that at comically low numbers.

Perhaps — again, for speculation and exaggeration — the Chiefs will give Smith-Schuster $2 million for catching one touchdown, $2 million for hitting 130 yards receiving, and $1 million for catching 16 passes. Those numbers feel too low and this whole exercise feels like exploiting an NFL loophole, but those would all technically be NLTBE incentives, meaning that the Chiefs wouldn't "pay" Smith-Schuster that $7 million until the 2023 salary cap, even though the Chiefs and Smith-Schuster would both consider those incentives very likely to be earned on a practical level.

Even assuming that the Chiefs may not have gone quite that extreme and could have set incentives somewhere around the 40-catch/500-yard/five-touchdown mark (or even higher, in a more traditional incentive format), it's hard to imagine that Smith-Schuster would have any incentives in his new deal that would be considered LTBE, based on his injury-shortened season and corresponding statistics. And, of course, there's no guarantee that all of the incentives are practically likely, but for a hotly recruited free agent to agree to a deal that's more than two-thirds incentives, it seems likely that the Chiefs got at least somewhat creative, helping them save a considerable amount of cap space in 2022.


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Old 03-18-2022, 09:30 PM   #581
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Great insight.

Even more reason we may have gone with JuJu.
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Old 03-18-2022, 09:55 PM   #583
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Sure.

And again, at this contract the opportunity cost isn’t even a problem. He’s a fine get.

At this point this is mostly just a Clay is an idiot thread.
I’m not thrilled with the move. I wanted to spend money on defense. And I agree with wanting some speed at wr, like Sammy on the cheap. But jujus contract ain’t bad and it could have been a lot worse. Lots of teams spending big on WR. As many have pointed out, juju has been great with good qb play and #1 wr opposite him. I’m sure juju wasn’t willing to sign a long term deal. He wanted to come in and blow it up and sign a big deal next season. In the end, this could be a great deal for both sides. Juju could blow it up. Plus this pushes hardman for get better, contract year for him and he’s now the 4th target. He’s gotta fight to get the stats he needs for free agency.

What I have a big issue with is now wanting to draft wr. We need a big draft on defense. Maybe draft offense in the 6th or 7th unless we acquire a 5th but this defense looks bad. We need DE, CB, DT and LB. We don’t have the money now to get FA help unless some surprising restructuring happens and that’ll be hard with d. Adam’s & Watson’s deals for wr & qb.
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I mentioned this already!!

I said they’d load them into games played incentives and he only played 5 so the incentives would be NLTBE and provide us the same year 1 cap relief as a 2 year deal!!

This is some horseshit right here.

Oh sure, I say it and end up arguing with a moron. But when some ass with a byline says it - it’s ‘great insight’

Screw you guys. You’re all dicks.
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