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Old 04-27-2006, 03:17 PM  
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What would Kiper be?

If Mel Kiper wasn't the self appointed genious of draft day what career would he have?


I can see him in a light green polyester suit trying to sell me a junk car at a third rate car lot.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:22 PM   #46
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Kiper is armchair wannabe infact any one of us could do his job if we got paid to watch college football games 24/7 to evaluate talent for ESPN
Wannabe what? I don't understand the "former player" pull for you? Like jsp said, Kiper has been doing this for 20 years. He knows people in the business. Understands the game. Understands what goes on in the front office.

Mayock? Well...he was a former player. Sat in a broadcast booth for a few years. Good for him. I'm sure he'll be a stud as a "College guru".
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:24 PM   #47
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If anyone could do it, and Kiper is so bad at it, why exactly has he been able to keep his job for over 20 years?

My guess is, Kiper knows a hell of a lot more about it than you or I or anyone else on this BB ever will.

I Sorry can't believe that dipshit has more "football knowledge" than me or others on this very BB.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:25 PM   #48
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I Sorry can't believe that dipshit has more "football knowledge" than me or others on this very BB.
Yeah right.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:26 PM   #49
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:28 PM   #50
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This is how Kiper did it he got lucky in broadcast journalism by landing a job in the gestation of ESPN as a network in a whole. Currently he wouldn't be able to break the market as a the "ultimate evaluator of talent". He'd be just another internet draftnik
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:28 PM   #51
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I Sorry can't believe that dipshit has more "football knowledge" than me or others on this very BB.
I can. In fact, you're convincing me more by the second.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:30 PM   #52
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This is how Kiper did it he got lucky in broadcast journalism by landing a job in the gestation of ESPN as a network in a whole. Currently he wouldn't be able to break the market as a the "ultimate evaluator of talent". He'd be just another internet draftnik
Ummm...you may want to read his bio if you honestly believe that.
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I can. In fact, you're convincing me more by the second.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:32 PM   #54
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This is how Kiper did it he got lucky in broadcast journalism by landing a job in the gestation of ESPN as a network in a whole. Currently he wouldn't be able to break the market as a the "ultimate evaluator of talent". He'd be just another internet draftnik
Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:35 PM   #56
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This is how Kiper did it he got lucky in broadcast journalism by landing a job in the gestation of ESPN as a network in a whole. Currently he wouldn't be able to break the market as a the "ultimate evaluator of talent". He'd be just another internet draftnik
He practically invented the job. He started a scouting publication business while he was still in college and was hired several years later by ESPN. He's not a broadcast journalist any more than Mike Mayock is.

As for not being able to break into the market, maybe you missed the rankings I posted earlier.

He's been getting paid to espouse his football knowledge for probably as long as you've been alive. He probably knows more about college players in one year than you'll know in your lifetime. I'm not sure what your beef is, but you're an ass to sit here and try and discredit him in the face of what he's accomplished.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:37 PM   #57
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Ummm...you may want to read his bio if you honestly believe that.


Mel Kiper Jr. has served as an expert analyst for ESPN's annual NFL draft coverage since 1984, providing in-depth information on the nation's most talented college football players. His pre-draft predictions are frequently the most accurate in the business, often as much as 80 percent correct on first-round selections. He also has a Web page (www.espn.go.com/melkiper), linked off of ESPN.com, that launched in 2000.
Kiper is also analyst for "College GameDay" on ESPN Radio, 11 a.m.-7 p.m. Saturdays throughout the season. Additionally, he is a frequent contributor to ESPN's award-winning "SportsCenter" during the NFL and college football seasons and provides occasional updates throughout the year.
Kiper is president of Kiper Enterprises, which he founded in 1981 while in college. It is responsible for all aspects of a series of annual publications including the "NFL Draft Report" and "Draft Preview."
His continuous, yearlong research is aided by an office equipped with satellite dishes allowing him to pick up 20 to 25 college games each week. This adds to his in-depth knowledge gathered from lengthy discussions with coaches, players and team executives.
Kiper, born July 25, 1960, attended Essex Community College in
Baltimore


It sounds like anyone of us given the oppurtunity and connections
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:45 PM   #58
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It sounds like anyone of us given the oppurtunity and connections
Yea, sounds like any of us. I can't count how many CP members started an NFL draft publication business in college that blossomed into a 20+ year TV career.

Why do you think he got the opportunity, and where did he get the connections?

Stop and think about it. He's practically the only person in the world with that job. If it's so damn easy, don't you think others would be doing it? If he's so damn bad at it, why hasn't he been replaced?
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Mel Kiper Jr. has served as an expert analyst for ESPN's annual NFL draft coverage since 1984, providing in-depth information on the nation's most talented college football players. His pre-draft predictions are frequently the most accurate in the business, often as much as 80 percent correct on first-round selections. He also has a Web page (www.espn.go.com/melkiper), linked off of ESPN.com, that launched in 2000.
Kiper is also analyst for "College GameDay" on ESPN Radio, 11 a.m.-7 p.m. Saturdays throughout the season. Additionally, he is a frequent contributor to ESPN's award-winning "SportsCenter" during the NFL and college football seasons and provides occasional updates throughout the year.
Kiper is president of Kiper Enterprises, which he founded in 1981 while in college. It is responsible for all aspects of a series of annual publications including the "NFL Draft Report" and "Draft Preview."
His continuous, yearlong research is aided by an office equipped with satellite dishes allowing him to pick up 20 to 25 college games each week. This adds to his in-depth knowledge gathered from lengthy discussions with coaches, players and team executives.
Kiper, born July 25, 1960, attended Essex Community College in
Baltimore.


It sounds like anyone of us given the oppurtunity and connections
Highlighted all the wrong stuff there, bud.

It sounds like he was way ahead of his time and made the most of his knowledge, showcasing it and making it sought after.

We should all be so fortunate.
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Highlighted all the wrong stuff there, bud.

It sounds like he was way ahead of his time and made the most of his knowledge, showcasing it and making it sought after.

We should all be so fortunate.
like I said if anyone of us had the time to watch college football games 24/7 we could call do this as a job. Their's websites out their now proclaiming the same thing concerning the 80% accuracy standpoint.
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