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View Poll Results: Which of the following most closely describes your beliefs:
I believe, and live accordingly. 16 11.19%
I believe, should strive accordingly....better than I do. 64 44.76%
I believe, but am not sure... 11 7.69%
I wanna believe, but have serious doubts... 10 6.99%
I have no clue--and neither do you or anyone else. 19 13.29%
I don't believe "in the myths of bronze age goat herders" or other similar "myths." However, I live a responsible and respectful life. 20 13.99%
I don't believe, and I live however the hell I choose. 2 1.40%
I believe in GAZ. 1 0.70%
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Old 12-01-2006, 11:21 AM  
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** OFFICIAL: "Do You Believe in God and an Afterlife?" Thread**

Simple question.

I'm just curious how representative this place is, compared with mainstream America on the question. A few threads of late, just got me wondering....

Please feel free to discuss.

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Old 12-01-2006, 12:38 PM   #46
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Well, according to that interpretation I got ****ed over by my great-great-grandparents.

Hey surely in the last 1000 generations one of my ancestors was a "true believer" so I'm off the hook. Heaven here I come Woohoo!

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Old 12-01-2006, 12:39 PM   #47
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Are you trying to improve yourself for God or for yourself and your family?
It's more like, because I believe in God, and that Jesus died for my sins, I feel like I want to be a better person. Not just to "get into heaven" but because it seems like the right thing to do. So, I guess you might say that I get my motivation from my belief in what God has done for me, but I don't think that being a good father or whatever will get me into heaven. I think it will help others get to heaven. Which I believe is what God wants. So, I guess I am doing it for God, but I don't mind it at all. It's not like its a burden. The want is there, it's just the execution that I am lacking in.
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By the way isn't Jealousy one of the seven deadly sins? So god is a sinner? Hmmm who does he pray to for forgiveness?

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Old 12-01-2006, 12:47 PM   #49
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Old 12-01-2006, 12:50 PM   #50
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By the way isn't Jealousy one of the seven deadly sins? So god is a sinner? Hmmm who does he pray to for forgiveness?

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Actually, I think it's envy, or coveting. Pretty sure God does not envy me.

http://deadlysins.com/sins/index.htm
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Old 12-01-2006, 12:55 PM   #51
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I fall somewhere in between "I have no clue" and "I don't believe "in the myths of bronze age goat herders""

Religion and science are no more than divergent ways to strive to understand something beyond our current level of understanding, i.e. the universe. They're essentially one and the same, it's simply a matter of choice with regards to where to put your faith, one road being the supernatural and belief that it's somthing beyond our understanding, the other being an attempt to fit reality into the confines of our current, limited knowlege.

I prefer science, personally, but that doesn't mean in the end that religion, or some tenets thereof, won't be right. That also doesn't mean that I don't recognize the inherent value of some of those said tenets.

If we need to get specific (the poll was left vague, but I think it was clearly about Christianity), then I don't see any reason why Christian mythology is any more or less relevant than any other. There's good to be found in a lot of religions, I just don't know (one way or the other) that any of them are based on anything more than myth. Those of you who choose to place your faith in religion, I respect and in some ways hope you're right, because it's much more romantic to think that my death will result in something more profound than fine dining for worms.
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i believe in god but dont believe that he believes in conformity.
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How you figure?

Do you believe in Thor or Odin or Amon Re? If not you are an athiest. You are an atheist to 1000s and 1000s of gods from the beginning of time. I'm just an atheist to one more than you.

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i believe in god but dont believe that he believes in conformity.
Not to be a smartass, but what makes you think that?
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Do you believe in Thor or Odin or Amon Re? If not you are an athiest. You are an atheist to 1000s and 1000s of gods from the beginning of time. I'm just an atheist to one more than you.

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Actually atheist means you don't believe in ANY god. Like if you are a theist, you believe in a god, if you are an atheist, you don't believe in any god. Since I believe in the God of the bible, then I am therefore not an atheist.
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religion is about mans control over man.

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I definetely believe in God and that he sent his son to die on the cross for our sins. I have grown up in a christian home (independant baptist meaning we dont have to answer to a mother church or are not governed by a mother church). I was saved when I was 5 years old and my dad teaches Sunday School he is the Head of the Deacons and leads our youth program of about 70 kids at our church (i am the game director lol). But there is something after death its called heaven and hell. People who dont know pretty much dont wanna know they just want to live the way they are living if they wanted to know they would seek answers. I would hate to be at the Gates of Heaven and not be in the Book of Life because it will be a long hot eternity. And saying religion is mans way of controlling man is pretty invalid. Goverment is a mans way of controlling man.
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i aint noones slave.
OK, that's fine. But you said conformity, just curious if you thought God believes that you should conform to what he wants...whatever that is...
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Actually atheist means you don't believe in ANY god. Like if you are a theist, you believe in a god, if you are an atheist, you don't believe in any god. Since I believe in the God of the bible, then I am therefore not an atheist.

But you are a atheist to Thor because you don't believe in him. You can be a atheist to certain gods and believe in other gods its not all or none. IMO.

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Old 12-01-2006, 01:35 PM   #60
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Actually atheist means you don't believe in ANY god. Like if you are a theist, you believe in a god, if you are an atheist, you don't believe in any god. Since I believe in the God of the bible, then I am therefore not an atheist.
That's my take as well.

I don't know why Dave is being difficult, unless it's just on purpose....which it probably is. Heh.
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