For all of you that don't think Autism is related to Vaccines

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by jspchief

End of thread. At least for me.

What exactly would be the motivation for every person associated with the CDC and AMA to cover this up?

Please tell me you're not that ****ing stupid.

[Donger]

So, autism didn't exist before vaccines?

[phisherman]

probably the same reason that we don't know about some root in the amazon that when made into a tea will cure cancer, the almighty dollar. pharm is a multi-billion $ a year industry, there are plenty of reasons to keep easy cures covered up.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by phisherman

probably the same reason that we don't know about some root in the amazon that when made into a tea will cure cancer, the almighty dollar. pharm is a multi-billion $ a year industry, there are plenty of reasons to keep easy cures covered up.

It's probably similar to the Oil industry. They buy up any patents that may be even the smallest competition and shelve them, ignoring the fact that it can save/help millions of people. They have a good thing going for them now so they're gonna ride it out and then later, maybe they'll look at some of these other ideas. They're motto is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" ....although we're becoming broke because of it.

[Iowanian]

Originally Posted by EyePod

It's probably similar to the Oil industry. They buy up any patents that may be even the smallest competition and shelve them, ignoring the fact that it can save/help millions of people. They have a good thing going for them now so they're gonna ride it out and then later, maybe they'll look at some of these other ideas. They're motto is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" ....although we're becoming broke because of it.

I've heard that a thousand times, and have wondered myself.

Can you find a link to 1 person who has had their world changing patent purchsed by "big oil"? Can they explain what the miracle was?

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

I've heard that a thousand times, and have wondered myself.

Can you find a link to 1 person who has had their world changing patent purchsed by "big oil"? Can they explain what the miracle was?

I'm not saying that it's a world changing patent. I'm just saying that it would help. Can you explain why all of the oil companies are also the leaders in next generation technology? (I'm a Chemical Engineering student and interviewed with several oil companies for a co-op. They are the ones that explained this situation to me).

This site has a bunch of articles talking about different times when companies have bought out patents and not used them. I'd like to see some sources, but I'm betting they didn't fabricate all of this info:

http://www.ev1.org/

I know of engineers who have told me of this going on. And I'm pretty sure I've seen articles talking about the different patents that Oil Companies own. I'll try and find it.

[MOhillbilly]

i just gave my kids dura-vet 7 way.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by EyePod

It's probably similar to the Oil industry. They buy up any patents that may be even the smallest competition and shelve them, ignoring the fact that it can save/help millions of people. They have a good thing going for them now so they're gonna ride it out and then later, maybe they'll look at some of these other ideas. They're motto is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" ....although we're becoming broke because of it.

[jidar]

Originally Posted by phisherman

probably the same reason that we don't know about some root in the amazon that when made into a tea will cure cancer, the almighty dollar. pharm is a multi-billion $ a year industry, there are plenty of reasons to keep easy cures covered up.

hahahah wow. In a thread full of nuts, you win the cashew award for being the nuttiest.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by phisherman

probably the same reason that we don't know about some root in the amazon that when made into a tea will cure cancer, the almighty dollar. pharm is a multi-billion $ a year industry, there are plenty of reasons to keep easy cures covered up.

So, think about this now:

NO SENIOR OFFICER of a big pharm company has ever died from cancer, or had his kid die from cancer, or had his wife or other loved one die from cancer.

Unless you think these evil people are mind-controlled to keep this a secret even if it means the death of them or a loved one.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

So, think about this now:

NO SENIOR OFFICER of a big pharm company has ever died from cancer, or had his kid die from cancer, or had his wife or other loved one die from cancer.

Unless you think these evil people are mind-controlled to keep this a secret even if it means the death of them or a loved one.

Hmm...

[Iowanian]

"Big Pharm"...

Big Pharm Big Pharm. "they" "the govt"..."they"

Do you ever think about who "they" are?

I know a handful of people from college and life that are pharamcists, scientific researchers, genetics people...Some of them got into the profession because of the paycheck, but I'll wager more researchers than not got into the fields to research diseases to CURE them, not to make money for a company. Hell, the Republicans and Democrats who run "the govt" can't agree that water is wet.

If you become a researcher because your mother has Parkinsons disease, or your little sister has Cistic Fibrosis, You're busting your ass to CURE that disease.

Today, if 2 people know something, its not going to be a secret. When people quit, retire, get fired, become disgruntled...they throw all of the dirty laundry into public.

There is ZERO chance than "Big Pharm" or "the govt" can keep these things (cures for terrible diseases) under their hat....because "THEY" are made up of individual people, who go to work every day to do a job. Some go to work for the paycheck, but many have good intentions for a greater good. There is just no way to hide that.

If I'm a researcher because my sibling/child has Autism...and I'm part of a team that finds a cure...its not being hidden from the world.

This stuff to me is right up there with "the govt" did 911 so we could go to war" arguements.

I still would like to see a map or study of location data relating to Autism. Do some states/cities/regions have significant differences in ratios to others? If so, why? Does Autism exist in the Jungles of Africa? Maybe it does, but those kids are clubbed or considered witches? Do the coasts or large metro areas have higher ratios than the midwest rural community? Are there patterns to industry? Water Treatment types? Other diseases prevelent in the areas with higher autism rates.

I can for example point to a couple of small pockets in Iowa, or even within a county that have high concentrations of brain cancer or Kidney cancer....

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

"I still would like to see a map or study of location data relating to Autism. Do some states/cities/regions have significant differences in ratios to others?

Before 1985, there was a strong association between latitude and autism (the higher the latitude, the more likely autism was) among light skinned people in America. Darker skinned people have had (and still do) a higher chance of having autism. Again, this is in America as I don't have stats for other countries.

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/healt...s-autism.shtml

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

"Big Pharm"...

Big Pharm Big Pharm. "they" "the govt"..."they"

Do you ever think about who "they" are?

I know a handful of people from college and life that are pharamcists, scientific researchers, genetics people...Some of them got into the profession because of the paycheck, but I'll wager more researchers than not got into the fields to research diseases to CURE them, not to make money for a company. Hell, the Republicans and Democrats who run "the govt" can't agree that water is wet.

If you become a researcher because your mother has Parkinsons disease, or your little sister has Cistic Fibrosis, You're busting your ass to CURE that disease.

Today, if 2 people know something, its not going to be a secret. When people quit, retire, get fired, become disgruntled...they throw all of the dirty laundry into public.

There is ZERO chance than "Big Pharm" or "the govt" can keep these things (cures for terrible diseases) under their hat....because "THEY" are made up of individual people, who go to work every day to do a job. Some go to work for the paycheck, but many have good intentions for a greater good. There is just no way to hide that.

If I'm a researcher because my sibling/child has Autism...and I'm part of a team that finds a cure...its not being hidden from the world.

This stuff to me is right up there with "the govt" did 911 so we could go to war" arguements.

You're really messing up the tinfoil hats...

[Calcountry]

Meh, I'm more worried about Big FARM right now. When in the heck are you sunsabiotches gonna grow some more corn and get the freaking prices down!!! :