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Old 04-10-2008, 07:17 PM   #1
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Let Croyle get shitbeat, exit about Week 2. Let Huard come in and take his lumps.

Let Ryan take over fully in 2009 with an upgraded line.
Id be down with that. Most teams that have stopgap QB's do this.

Even Eli didnt start until halfway or towards the end of his his rookie year. The Giants had Kurt Warner to take the lumps.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:18 PM   #2
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I see the point. There's no way he would remain intact behind this Oline this year. Let Croyle get shitbeat, exit about Week 2. Let Huard come in and take his lumps.

Let Ryan take over fully in 2009 with an upgraded line.
I guess I'm more optimistic about the OL than you are.

IMO, no matter WHO plays, it will be better than last year, because dumbass Solari won't be hanging them all out to dry.

A reeruned monkey on a meth bender could do a better job of situational play calling than Solari did.

People are so worried about "David Carr-ing" a QB.

If this kid is as mentally tough and a great leader that some claim him to be, getting beat up a bit isn't going to shell-shock him.

Get him building a rapport with Bowe and the others ASAP.

By the time this kid hits his stride (approximately 3-4 years after getting the starting gig, see: Rivers, Philip and Manning, Eli) Dwayne Bowe is going to be twenty-****ing-eight years old.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:20 PM   #3
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People are so worried about "David Carr-ing" a QB.

If this kid is as mentally tough and a great leader that some claim him to be, getting beat up a bit isn't going to shell-shock him.
Agreed. David Carr had more than enough chances to prove himself. People can make all the excuses they want for him but he just wasnt very good.

At some point a good QB will rise above his situation, make plays and lift the team up around him.
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Old 04-11-2008, 09:54 AM   #4
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I see the point. There's no way he would remain intact behind this Oline this year. Let Croyle get shitbeat, exit about Week 2. Let Huard come in and take his lumps.

Let Ryan take over fully in 2009 with an upgraded line.

Oh man , that is rich.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:24 PM   #5
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If he's there at 5 they have to take him period.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:27 PM   #6
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If he's there at 5 they have to take him period.
And I'm fine with that, provided they play him.

Which, of course, they won't.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:34 PM   #7
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If he's there at 5 they have to take him period.
Even if Dorsey or Ellis is there?
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:35 PM   #8
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Even if Dorsey or Ellis is there?
Whats the most important position on any NFL team??
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:55 PM   #9
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well, if you believe he is a franchise QB then you have to take him....

QB is the most important position on the team, and the most important face of the franchise....
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:04 PM   #10
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I still don't remotely believe that Croyle will ever make it a season without missing several games.
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:24 PM   #11
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Hey, y'all can rest easy. Nick Athan just said that we were taking Brandon Albert with the 5th pick. Case closed....
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Old 04-10-2008, 08:30 PM   #12
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I still don't remotely believe that Croyle will ever make it a season without missing several games.
so you are FOR snagging Ryan? or jsut another QB in the 2nd or 3rd? (after ellis of course )
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TD's per attempt is going to favor a guy who threw it 350 times to a guy who threw it over 600...
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TD's per attempt is going to favor a guy who threw it 350 times to a guy who threw it over 600...
I didn't list TD's per attempt.

I listed TD's per INT.



What I find comical is that there are people who were whining in TC that if Croyle played, he'd be a turnover machine.

Then he goes out and throws 6 INT's in 6 starts. Fewer INT's per game than Eli Manning, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer and Tony Romo, among others.

Meanwhile, some of those same people are stoked about Ryan, who threw the ball all over the yard.
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I didn't list TD's per attempt.

I listed TD's per INT.



What I find comical is that there are people who were whining in TC that if Croyle played, he'd be a turnover machine.

Then he goes out and throws 6 INT's in 6 starts. Fewer INT's per game than Eli Manning, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer and Tony Romo, among others.

Meanwhile, some of those same people are stoked about Ryan, who threw the ball all over the yard.
I admit I know little about QBs and what it takes for them to succeed. However, I haven't seen anything from Ryan that says "Wow! I gotta have this kid."

I stated before last season that I was willing to give Croyle some time. I still am.

I won't be furious if they take Ryan, but I certainly don't think he's BPA at #5.
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