Nick Athan.."Herm is 50/50 on coming back"

[petegz28]

On the sports spot right now.

What are the requirements to get hired at WPI?

I mean, a 50/50 chance....Athan must have some real inside connections.

[tomahawk kid]

Y'know what's really sad?

Harry uses this clown as a source.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wow, you really don't get it, do you?

Yeah, let's bust Herm for a couple of 5th and 6th round picks like Medlock, Richardson and Maxey.

JFC.

And to state that Hali has been a bust, along with Tyler and McBride (and Kolby Smith - WTF?) is INSANE.

To even MENTION Morgan, when he's been injured this year and Richardson, who's a sixth round rookie says to me that either you don't understand the draft or you don't understand the NFL.

Wow.

Dude I can play you like a harp.. This is so so easy. A few strokes of the keys and you are hanging on like a fish...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Hali=Fine if you play him at his position
Pollard= meh
McBride=jury still out
Tyler=potential but waning
Franklin? As in the WR Franklin? = Just ****ing fine with me.

has ANYONE paid any attention to tank and dorsey these last few weeks? tank has looked pretty good and dorsey was doubleteamed most plays last week, hell last week the de's FINALLY made the most of the double on dorsey

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Considered to be retained? Herm says that if he's back, they're back, too.

Beyond this, this tables the development of a QB for another year. And before we go down this road, everyone is going to have to accept that the pistol probably isn't the long-term answer.

Well then Herm is as good as gone if he really said that and meant it. You never know what they really mean and what they are saying to appear professional?

I don't mind going to a spread O, I really don't. Maybe more shotgun as opposed to Pistol but a spread O does give a shitty O-line more of a chance.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Hali=Fine if you play him at his position
Pollard= meh
McBride=jury still out
Tyler=potential but waning
Franklin? As in the WR Franklin? = Just ****ing fine with me.

Agree 100%, I am just throwing crap out there and watching Dane take the bait...

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wow, you really don't get it, do you?

Yeah, let's bust Herm for a couple of 5th and 6th round picks like Medlock, Richardson and Maxey.

JFC.

And to state that Hali has been a bust, along with Tyler and McBride (and Kolby Smith - WTF?) is INSANE.

To even MENTION Morgan, when he's been injured this year and Richardson, who's a sixth round rookie says to me that either you don't understand the draft or you don't understand the NFL.

Wow.

Ok, Dane. Let's talk about the original point, though. Why does Herm get a pass for his defense, while Grandpa, the offensive mastermind, could take a shit unit to top-tier in the same amount of time? Both had to "battle" the evil Carl...

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well then Herm is as good as gone if he really said that and meant it. You never know what they really mean and what they are saying to appear professional?

I don't mind going to a spread O, I really don't. Maybe more shotgun as opposed to Pistol but a spread O does give a shitty O-line more of a chance.

At some point, the QB must be able to go under center and be successful. When Thigpen shows he can do this, I'll be more open to the spread, or whatever they're going to call it, being the primary option.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yeah, I agree. That was the most dominating 3 for 24 performance that I've ever seen.

I know the one catch he made that took what, 4 guys to take him down?

I think Franklin can be a great slot WR and maybe a #2 if Bradley or Bowe went down.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

At some point, the QB must be able to go under center and be successful. When Thigpen shows he can do this, I'll be more open to the spread, or whatever they're going to call it, being the primary option.

I don't know that I agree with that 100%. I would like to give the kid at least a full off-season to practice that stuff and with a line that can also play that style. Obviously the first what, 6-7 games showed us our O-line has a problem blocking when we line up under center.

Also, I could see Thigy being good under center if we incorporate the bootleg style of O the Donks used with Jake.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't know that I agree with that 100%. I would like to give the kid at least a full off-season to practice that stuff and with a line that can also play that style. Obviously the first what, 6-7 games showed us our O-line has a problem blocking when we line up under center.

Also, I could see Thigy being great under center if we incorporate the bootleg style of O the Donks used with Jake.

Dude is going to have to show more consistency with his accuracy.

Right now, I just don't see him as a complete player. I could be wrong, though, and he might continue to develop now that he is truly considered a legit possibility.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Dude is going to have to show more consistency with his accuracy.

Right now, I just don't see him as a complete player. I could be wrong, though, and he might continue to develop now that he is truly considered a legit possibility.

I would cut him a little extra slack just because of the way he ended up being the starter. But yes, if it does not improve we have a problem with Thigy.

[The Bad Guy]

6-26.

I don't care what direction you view this team is headed, when you're 6-24, you don't deserve any benefit of the doubt. Your ass should be fired.

Romeo Crennell found some defensive talent too in Cleveland with Wimbley, McDonald, Sean Jones, Andra Davis, but you don't see Cleveland fans clamoring for him to return.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Ok, Dane. Let's talk about the original point, though. Why does Herm get a pass for his defense, while Grandpa, the offensive mastermind, could take a shit unit to top-tier in the same amount of time? Both had to "battle" the evil Carl...

Great point.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Ok, Dane. Let's talk about the original point, though. Why does Herm get a pass for his defense, while Grandpa, the offensive mastermind, could take a shit unit to top-tier in the same amount of time? Both had to "battle" the evil Carl...

Have the Chiefs traded their Top 12 pick for a defensive player?

Did they sign the best defensive player in free agency?

Have they traded for a Hall of Famer?

Did the Chiefs already have TWO established 9-Time Pro-Bowlers on the defense in place?

The Chiefs acquired Green, Holmes, Roaf and Weigeman.. They already had Shields, Waters and Gonzales.

Clearly, Vermeil's offense and Edwards defense are mutually exclusive.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Have the Chiefs traded their Top 12 pick for a defensive player?

Did they sign the best defensive player in free agency?

Have they traded for a Hall of Famer?

Did the Chiefs already have TWO established 9-Time Pro-Bowlers on the defense in place?

Clearly, Vermeil's offense and Edwards defense are mutually exclusive.

Well, they have spent the bulk of their top draft choices on defense. The D-line, which most of us think is pretty shitty, is composed of two 1's, a 2, and a 3. It's sucked.

We have spent a significant amount of FA money on LB's, which are worse than the line. Most of the team's resources have gone to improving the D, but it still sucks. And Herm is a defensive-minded coach.

Admittedly, the team traded its best defensive player, who, ironically, was drafted under DV's watch.

I'm not even asking for Herm's defense to be on par with DV's offenses, but it's not even close. DV, whom I didn't like by the way, generated a #1. Herm has helped assemble a #32.