Chiefs Bill Maas: Cassel = Grbac - Page 4

T-post Tom · 11-16-2009, 11:32 PM

Said it today on 610. Said that Cassel is not a "general" on the field; not a leader of men. Maas said while he's tall and has a strong arm (looks the part), he doesn't have the personality or mental makeup to be a leader or a great qb. His only hope is to be surrounded by talent and not get in the way of that talent. Grbac.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-17-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Only a few of the greats have tempers on the field, because if one loses their cool that temper will lose the game.

Plus, Cassel is not Peyton Manning and hasn't earned that respect to yell and berate his teammates.

It's hilarious how some of you want a softer team.

milkman · 11-17-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Only a few of the greats have tempers on the field, because if one loses their cool that temper will lose the game.

Plus, Cassel is not Peyton Manning and hasn't earned that respect to yell and berate his teammates.

I'm on your side in the Cassel debate, but quite frankly, you are one clueless bastard.

King_Chief_Fan · 11-17-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Said it today on 610. Said that Cassel is not a "general" on the field; not a leader of men. Maas said while he's tall and has a strong arm (looks the part), he doesn't have the personality or mental makeup to be a leader or a great qb. His only hope is to be surrounded by talent and not get in the way of that talent. Grbac.

Not sure who should be offended by the comparison -- Grbac or Cassel.

We are stuck wtih Cassel for a while longer. Better get a better offensive plan and surrond him with lots of talent if this team is going to be effective. Cassel should have had a field day against the Raiders...and didn't.

**Iowanian** · 11-17-2009, 07:57 AM

I'm not Cassel's biggest fan so far and think his accuracy sucks. I also don't think he's got as much arm as Grlllbac.

One difference Mass overlooked, Grbac wouldn't play with a sore pinky, Cassel was back in a couple of weeks from an MCL. From the beating he's taken from the lack of Oline(Grbac had a solid Line) I'd say his attitude seems alright. I wish his accuracy, timing were better and he'd get rid of the ball faster.

patteeu · 11-17-2009, 08:06 AM

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Strong arm, lol

My impression is exactly the opposite. He has the potential for leadership but doesn't have the skills to back it up.

Same here.

It's not proof positive of leadership ability, but there's no way Elvis Grbac would have been working on Savage's psyche on the sideline after his fumble like Cassel was.

It's a shame Croyle is so brittle.

Ralphy Boy · 11-17-2009, 08:15 AM

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I said this before Cassel isn't mentally/emotionally equipped for the job a franchise QB he gets rattled too easily and is a hot head. Most great QBs have a naturally calm personality, and Cassel has admitted he doesn't possess that trait.

Like Rivers or Favre? I'd take either one of those over El-I-have-no-pulse-Manning

Rooster · 11-17-2009, 08:17 AM

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Are Maas and Whitlock friends?

No, lovers.

**alnorth** · 11-17-2009, 08:28 AM

I've always felt this "QB leadership" thing was vastly overrated. He's got a job to do, we just need him to be a very good quarterback and make good decisions out there.

If a team is playing around a good quarterback who can help them win games, I believe they will bust their ass to protect him even if he has all the personality and leadership skills of a limp dishrag. To me, this is no different then asking that the Fullback or the Center be a great leader. Why?

memyselfI · 11-17-2009, 08:35 AM

On Sunday, I saw a leader go over and give his teammate a pep talk after being vocally raped by the Mad Hatta. That is a leader. Perhaps he's not getting credit for leading because his role has been clean up for Haley's verbal diarrhea and not actually able to step up and be a positive force in the locker room or on the field.

milkman · 11-17-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

I've always felt this "QB leadership" thing was vastly overrated. He's got a job to do, we just need him to be a very good quarterback and make good decisions out there.

If a team is playing around a good quarterback who can help them win games, I believe they will bust their ass to protect him even if he has all the personality and leadership skills of a limp dishrag. To me, this is no different then asking that the Fullback or the Center be a great leader. Why?

Leadership is a far more important trait for a QB than you believe.

Sure, when you have the parts in place to be a good team, then yeah, they are going to block, catch, do all the things that good teams to do to win games.

But when things aren't working, then the QB is the guy that evertyone looks to for leadership, the guy they rely on to find a way to overcome whatever difficulties they may be experiencing.

It's why guys like Montana, Elway, Bradshaw, Staubaugh etc...are HoFers and mutiple SB champions.

If the Ravens had a talented leader in this decade, they would have multiple SBs.

The Chiefs were almost lead to the SB by Montana, even though his skills were diminished by the time Carl traded for him, and in spite of Marty, because of his leadership.

milkman · 11-17-2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

On Sunday, I saw a leader go over and give his teammate a pep talk after being vocally raped by the Mad Hatta. That is a leader. Perhaps he's not getting credit for leading because his role has been clean up for Haley's verbal diarrhea and not actually able to step up and be a positive force in the locker room or on the field.

Please, just shut the **** up. you stupid bitch.

memyselfI · 11-17-2009, 08:44 AM

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Please, just shut the **** up. you stupid bitch.

Posts like this GUARANTEE that I won't. Thanks for the inspiration!

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milkman · 11-17-2009, 08:46 AM

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Posts like this GUARANTEE that I won't. Thanks for the inspiration!

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I guess stupid bitches are easily inspired.

memyselfI · 11-17-2009, 08:49 AM

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I guess stupid bitches are easily inspired.

I guess petty pansies are easily irritated.

keg in kc · 11-17-2009, 08:51 AM

I don't get that comparison at all.

11-16-2009, 11:32 PM
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1747293	Bill Maas: Cassel = Grbac Said it today on 610. Said that Cassel is not a "general" on the field; not a leader of men. Maas said while he's tall and has a strong arm (looks the part), he doesn't have the personality or mental makeup to be a leader or a great qb. His only hope is to be surrounded by talent and not get in the way of that talent. Grbac.
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11-17-2009, 07:57 AM	#49
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1638454	I'm not Cassel's biggest fan so far and think his accuracy sucks. I also don't think he's got as much arm as Grlllbac. One difference Mass overlooked, Grbac wouldn't play with a sore pinky, Cassel was back in a couple of weeks from an MCL. From the beating he's taken from the lack of Oline(Grbac had a solid Line) I'd say his attitude seems alright. I wish his accuracy, timing were better and he'd get rid of the ball faster.
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11-17-2009, 08:28 AM	#53
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	I've always felt this "QB leadership" thing was vastly overrated. He's got a job to do, we just need him to be a very good quarterback and make good decisions out there. If a team is playing around a good quarterback who can help them win games, I believe they will bust their ass to protect him even if he has all the personality and leadership skills of a limp dishrag. To me, this is no different then asking that the Fullback or the Center be a great leader. Why? __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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11-17-2009, 08:35 AM	#54
memyselfI CHANGEd your mind yet???? Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lunatics Anonymous Casino cash: $10005234	On Sunday, I saw a leader go over and give his teammate a pep talk after being vocally raped by the Mad Hatta. That is a leader. Perhaps he's not getting credit for leading because his role has been clean up for Haley's verbal diarrhea and not actually able to step up and be a positive force in the locker room or on the field. __________________ Meet the new boss same as the old boss. BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid." "It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I don't get that comparison at all.
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