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It's amazing to me how much people here hate young QB's, and how they expect them all to be perfect straight out of college.
If you can't see the upside in someone like Stafford, Sanchez or Clausen, then frankly, you have no idea what you're looking at/for. |
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I wouldn't be shocked if the Chiefs start stockpiling picks in an effort to make a run at a player like Gabbert in a year or two. Personally, I wouldn't mind it one bit if the Chiefs took their first rounder and one of their seconds and a fifth to move up to get Suh at #1 and traded Dorsey to one of those teams wanting/needing a 4-3 DT (Tampa, Detroit, Tennessee, etc.) and get that second and fifth back via that trade. |
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I suppose by your fool-proof evaluation method that Dorsey somehow didn't make any progress either last year, right?
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I can see some upside, but Sanchez was dropped into the perfect situation and failed. So I don't see how anyone can already say we made a mistake. Maybe he proves down the road that we made a mistake, but not right now. He had top defense and top running game and while he flashed at time still had a horrible passer rating on a good team. He was 28th in the league in passer rating, the next worst QB in passer rating for a team that made the playoffs was 16th (Palmer). The Jets won inspite of Sanchez, not because of him. Again not saying he won't improve, but you can't say right now that it was a mistake to pass on him, but you can't say it was a smart move at this time either. |
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I also think that Suh has every single possible tool to be the dominant force at a 3-4 five tech DE position. The guy has the length, the strength, the agility and the instincts to be the prototype for the position. And Dorsey is not playing like the best player in his draft. Not even close. He made improvements, but he was out of position a lot this past year and seemed at times to get lost on plays, especially when they ran at him on the outside edge. He's got a ways to go before anyone is going to consider him a decent DE. I think that the general consensus is that he'd be a much better 4-3 DT than anything. The guy just looks out of position and played like it more often than not. I was thrilled when we drafted Dorsey. However, we changed coaches the next season and changed schemes. Haley has been given the support cast and looks to be the long term guy as the Chiefs head coach. Crennel and Weiss could retire out of the AC spots in Kansas City. It looks like we are set in terms of the systems they want to run, and as a fan, I want the best possible player for our team, and Suh represents that in this draft. Bookend him with Jackson and you are looking at the makings of a dominant 3-4 defense. I can't look at Dorsey and make that same claim. (Though, if I were Atlanta, Tennessee, Minnesota, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville, etc., I'd be actively looking at the possibility of acquiring a guy like Mr. Dorsey.) |
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How the **** could anyone be stupid enough to argue that a rookie QB who got to the conference championship game has ****ing failed?
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With Weiss as the OC, and a full offseason of a set offensive scheme, I think that we'll see marked improvements in Cassel's game. The problem that most people have around here is that they want "their guy" at the key positions. Cassel wasn't picked by the Chiefs. He was traded for. I think that's why there is such a support group for Albert and Dorsey. They were Chief's first round picks. They've got to be better because we picked them. I just don't think that either really translate to what Haley and Weiss and Crennel want to do in this offense. I hope they all work out though. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush. |
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sorry, man, but that is preposterous....his performance against the colts alone validates his rookie season....
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