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Old 10-30-2010, 03:52 PM  
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Flowers and Hali in the running for PFF Defensive Player of the Year
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2. Tamba Hali (Chiefs, +25.1)
Perhaps the best pure pass rusher in the league this year. League-leading 43 total quarterback pressures, and without a single penalty. He’s not as great in run support, but he’s good enough.

3. Brandon Flowers (Chiefs, +15.8)
So he hasn’t got an island named after himself yet, but Flowers just keeps on making plays. Yet to allow a touchdown with only 39% of passes his way completed, and has a personal passer rating against of 28.8. In 41 targets, he’s only allowed one pass of 20+ yards. Stellar.
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:05 PM   #46
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"In 41 targets, he’s only allowed one pass of 20+ yards."

And Andre Johnson had get away with murder to get it.

And Flowers still won't let it go.

**** yes.
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:41 PM   #47
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Tamba Hali's parents are the ones to blame.....he tries hard he just doesn't have the natural talent to make it work.
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I don't think any amount of coaching is going to make Tamba Hali better, he just isn't very talented.
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I think we should just take an end to take one, we need another Tamba Hali out there, it'll be great.
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If this team goes to 3-4 Tamba Hali has no position hell he doesn't have a position in a 4-3 either.
He's so badass he created a new position, evidently.

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If you put Tamba Hali at OLB in any scheme you are just asking for bad things to happen.
To the quarterback.

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We don't have rush backers for a 3-4....and if anyone suggest Tamba Hali as a rush backer I'll back hand them.
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Also Tamba Hali playing OLB is a really really funny thought.
ARE YOU LAUGHING NOW?

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You know what happens when you don't draft on potential and draft more on what a guy is...you get Tamba Hali, hows that working out?
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Flowers is good enough to do what's asked of him in a press man situation he's more of a 2 than a 1 though.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:08 PM   #49
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Tamba is what he is...a player that was maxed out in college and wont ever get better /cp
dont lump us all into that....

Just because a select few say shit like this all the time doesnt mean the rest of CP agrees...
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Actually, it would be awesome, Mecca.



He's so badass he created a new position, evidently.



To the quarterback.





ARE YOU LAUGHING NOW?



PRETTY ****ING GOOD!!!!
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:11 PM   #51
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He's so badass he created a new position, evidently.



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Old 10-30-2010, 09:20 PM   #53
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Dane had a pretty good one (for him, not the haters) where he said he could be pretty good if he actually drops to the weight he is currently playing at.

You know whats crazy about Hali?

When he was at Penn State, he played DT until his final year iirc.
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I agree that Hali is a nice rotational DE. Sucks for us that he happened to be a first rounder. He's an NFL player, though, which is more than we can say about many a draft pick we've had.
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Dorsey definite hope and potential. McBride and Tank should still be able to develop.

But Hali is what he is. He's the DJ of the line, and that was absolutely a good comparison.
I wish Hali could be more like Turk and Tank.

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Thinking about playing Hali at OLB is suicidal. A colossal disaster waiting to happen.

I think Hali struggles because he lacks the necessary explosion, overall speed, strength, etc. In short, he's a max-effort guy who lacks the type of elite athleticism necessary to be an impact player.

I give him credit for being an NFL player, just not one you'd be happy having drafted in round 1.
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Do people really have visions of Hali as a dominating, game-changing force? Someone who will be getting after the QB with regularity?
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I still have no doubt that Hali is going to be a well below-average LB and someone whom this organization will be looking to replace at the earliest possible moment.
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If you're pro life, how can you possibly stand to watch Hali play?
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Hali can have a role in this defense, but he's currently out of position.
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I'll go ahead and fall on this grenade and take the heat when I'm wrong:

Tamba Hali will never make the Pro-Bowl.
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Hamas throws the gauntlet down for Hali.

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I'd say that right now, the safe money would bet on Hali never being a 12 sack guy
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#1 draft picks have to be building blocks. For what his value was, he is a failure.
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Turk McBride, Tamba Hali, and Bernard Pollard are ****ing awful football players for where they were drafted.
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Pioli is the guy that said "**** this. We're going 3-4" and basically negated the past few years. Hali can't play OLB in a 3-4.
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I think it's ****ing hysterical that people like GoChiefs and The Guardian can somehow claim that Hali was a successful linebacker after he was nearly trampled to death in the Cleveland game, while finishing the season with only 8.5 sacks.

He's a just a ****ing guy. He's a role player on a good defense at best.
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Who's going to get to the QB? Vrabel? Hali? Ha!
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How? Do you honestly think that Hali or McBride is somehow going to emerge into a pass rushing machine?
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No one is saying that Hali doesn't work hard. That would be ludicrous. The guy has the heart of a champion.

But, he's flat-footed, not particularly quick, fleet or fast. He doesn't move his hips well and is clueless in coverage. He's not nifty enough to get past an average offensive tackles (much less an elite tackle) and he doesn't have any instincts to speak of, meaning he doesn't read and react well.
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haha

I can remember a lot of those quotes (that occurred after the transition) being responses to my posts.

But, yeah, before the transition I was all kinds of fail on him as well. I liked him a lot as a LDE but never thought he could transition to the LOLB spot. The only defense of Hali I remember offering (before the transition) was showing his similarity to Ware and a couple other elite OLBs in 3-4 defenses as far as shuttle times and other agility/change of direction drills in which he times very well. Overall, I too thought he would fail though. Short arms, not a lot of power/strength etc.

Once we played a few games though, I knew I had missed badly and started backing him consistently. Mostly against the grain, as usual for me I guess.

Its nice to have a few players that are starting to play as well as anyone in the NFL again. Its been awhile.
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