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Old 03-18-2013, 05:33 PM  
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Albert being shopped for a 2nd rounder
Branden Albert available for 2nd-round pick?

Citing chatter at the NFL Owners Meetings, ESPN's John Clayton believes the Dolphins could acquire franchise player LT Branden Albert from the Chiefs in exchange for a second-round draft pick.
Albert signed his one-year, $9.828 million tender on Monday and is available for trade. Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland has a need at left tackle and two second-round picks: Nos. 42 and 54. Trading for Albert would likely also require Miami signing him to a long-term extension. The Dolphins have structured their free-agent contracts in a backloaded manner and still have $15 million in cap room.

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Old 03-18-2013, 08:47 PM   #46
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I disagree with your interpretation. When TRR says "that's an issue", the antecedent of the pronoun is Albert's apparent unwillingness to play a different position even if it makes the team better, not the notion that the team can't be improved because Albert is unwilling to move.
Given the realities of the players available there is no logical way by which his moving would improve the team. Again, at best it's a specious argument. It suggests an impossibility then ruminates on the implications of something that wouldn't happen happening. Pointless at best.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:49 PM   #47
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Why would they put the franchise tag on a guy and basically agree to pay him the average salary of the top 5 at his position and only look to get a 2nd round pick for him? If he is worth that kind of money then you keep him. If he is only worth a 2nd rounder then they are probably overpaying. If they trade Albert for only a 2 IMO they contradicting themselves.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:49 PM   #48
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:49 PM   #49
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No one said Albert was indispensable or that you couldn't find a better LT. The question is what are the odds of improving the position and are you getting good return on the investment of 1.1?
It would be, despite not being the flashy fan favorite. From everything I get Joeckel and Fisher are to tackles what Luck and RG3 were to qbs last year. Not a lot of flash, however, you get younger cheaper tackles that shore up the position without injury. Especially, when the swap gets you the extra pick to possibly pick up a qb.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:49 PM   #50
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You guys act as if this team has just been one position away from success all these years. There are good players on this team, but I can't justify calling any of them indispensable. None of them are so good that their position can't be improved with the possible exception of the RB and the punter. And AFAIC, I'm being generous to those two guys.
No, dipshit.

We were responding to the stupid post that suggested that Albert was responsible in some way for the crap teams that have taken the field since he's been Chief.
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Why would they put the franchise tag on a guy and basically agree to pay him the average salary of the top 5 at his position and only look to get a 2nd round pick for him? If he is worth that kind of money then you keep him. If he is only worth a 2nd rounder then they are probably overpaying. If they trade Albert for only a 2 IMO they contradicting themselves.
You have to tag him before you can trade him. See Matt Cassel.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:54 PM   #52
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No one said Albert was indispensable or that you couldn't find a better LT. The question is what are the odds of improving the position and are you getting good return on the investment of 1.1?
No one said Albert was to blame for Cassel's play... and Huard's play... and Thigpen's play... and Palko's play... and Quinn's play, either. (keg's post)

No one said the reason to consider upgrading the offensive line was to give the QB 12 - 19 seconds of additional protection, either. (your post)

No one said the best offensive lineman should automatically be cut if your team sucks for several years in a row after he's drafted, either. (milkman and candyman's posts).

It works both ways.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:55 PM   #53
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Trading a 1st round LT in his prime, only to replace him with a 1st round tackle who may or may not be as good as him, seems a waste of a first round pick. Does it not?

We may be able to trade down in the first and pick up that 2nd round pick that everyone is wiling to take for Albert anyway, right?
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Has this trade rumor been confirmed by any other sources? Legit question.
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I thought two 1st rounders were the required compensation for a franchised player?
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I get what most are saying in this thread. However, KC is 25-55 with Albert as their left tackle. Yea....Yeah....Yeah....I know. He's not all to blame. He is however playing one of the most important positions on the offensive side, and after a 2-14 season, he openly admits he won't play a different position even if it betters the team. That's an issue.

We shall see what happens with Branden Albert.
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What a surprise.
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No, dipshit.

We were responding to the stupid post that suggested that Albert was responsible in some way for the crap teams that have taken the field since he's been Chief.
The post that specifically pointed out that there were other causes for the Chiefs problems during that period. Albert has contributed to the fail on more than one occasion even if he's one of the brighter spots on that side of the ball. He, himself, admits that he's had some disappointing seasons. As usual, you over-reacted to a pretty reasonable critique. You know, you can disagree with people without pretending that their comments are stupid.
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No one said Albert was to blame for Cassel's play... and Huard's play... and Thigpen's play... and Palko's play... and Quinn's play, either. (keg's post)

No one said the reason to consider upgrading the offensive line was to give the QB 12 - 19 seconds of additional protection, either. (your post)

No one said the best offensive lineman should automatically be cut if your team sucks for several years in a row after he's drafted, either. (milkman and candyman's posts).

It works both ways.
But you're defending using 1.1 to marginally upgrade a position of relative strength. It's not the style of the argument, its the content. You're just on the wrong side of this argument.
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