Mock (2/4) - Page 4

Direckshun · 05:26 PM

It's a little more detailed now that I'm using Over the Cap's Salary Cap Calculator.

Assumptions:

1. The Chiefs extend Alex Smith 4 years, $60m ($36m guaranteed), OLB Justin Houston 5 years, $42m ($21m guaranteed), and S Eric Berry 6 years, $38m ($18m guaranteed).

2. The Chiefs trade Brandon Flowers to the Oakland Raiders for a 2nd round pick.

3. The Chiefs restructure WR Dwayne Bowe, OLB Tamba Hali, CB Sean Smith, and K Ryan Succop.

4. The Chiefs resign WR Dexter McCluster to a 4 year, $13m deal ($4m guaranteed), OG Geoff Schwartz to a 3 year, $6m deal.

5. The Chiefs place a 6th round tender on Jerrell Powe.

7. The Chiefs re-sign S Quentin Demps and LS Thomas Gafford to minimal deals.

8. The Chiefs let walk: WR Kyle Williams, OT Brandon Albert, OG Jon Asamoah, DE Tyson Jackson, OLB Frank Zombo, ILB Akeem Jordan, S Kendrick Lewis, S Husain Abdullah

9. The Chiefs cut: TE Anthony Fasano, ILB Derrick Johnson, CB Dunta Robinson

10. The Chiefs sign WR Jeremy Maclin (Eagles) to a 3-year, $15m deal ($1m guaranteed), OT Khalif Barnes (Raiders) to a 1 year, $2m deal, S Chris Clemons (Dolphins) to a 4-year, $20m deal ($4m guaranteed).

On with the show:

1.23. CB Jason Verrett, TCU

Verrett projects, really, to be the next Brandon Flowers. Sized at about 5'10", he possesses the same physical dimensions with Flowers, along with a sterling record as a physical, fast corner that the Chiefs can pair with Sean Smith in 2014, and with potentially Marcus Cooper or Ron Parker as they continue ascending in 2015.

Ultimately, you need players right for your scheme. Brandon Flowers was drafted and served primarily as a Cover 2 corner. He had some success in Crennel's bend-but-don't-break, but it's clear he's not cut out for the high-pressure island that Sutton prefers to run. It's likely that both of the team's starting corners will need to be replaced, but for now the Chiefs are taking a size/scheme/age/cap-friendly upgrade, and netting a 2nd rounder in return.

2.36 (from OAK). TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington

Seferian-Jenkins is looking more and more like he's going to slip a bit to the 2nd round as Amaro and Ebron suck all the oxygen out of the 1st round for TEs. This would be a great coup for the Chiefs, as a physical wonder at TE who needs help with his route-running is exactly the kind of talent you hope to land here.

3.87. DE Kelcy Quarles, South Carolina

Quarles needs to work on his ground game, no question, but where he really sets himself apart is his relentless passrushing. He stacked up 9.5 sacks last season from the interior position. He is this year's Derek Wolfe, and should spend the offseason battling with Allen Bailey and Mike Catapano to replace Tyson Jackson at DE.

4.119. OLB James Gayle, Virginia Tech

Gayle has outstanding size and measurable, plus he had bloodlines in the NFL. He would be a great talent to groom behind Hali and Houston.

5.151. ILB Christian Kirksey, Iowa

With the exit of Derrick Johnson, the Chiefs are going to need somebody adept in coverage and reading plays. Kirksey is an outstanding coverage 'backer, and is almost Kuechly-esque in his ability to cover ground.

6.177. ILB Andrew Jackson, Western Kentucky

A physical wrecking ball of a player; the Chiefs need somebody more physical to dominate the line of scrimmage behind their DL.

6.183. CB Kendall James, Maine

A 5'11" corner with 4.3 speed, Dorsey takes a shot here on a developmental prospect.

Direckshun · 02-05-2014, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

This. How do you justify passing McCluster that kind of Jack?

I figure that'll be the going price if we retain him.

OldSchool · 02-05-2014, 10:56 AM

I would let McCluster walk, he can easily be upgraded in the draft. I don't see any team trading their 2nd round pick for Flowers who was terrible in coverage last year.

Chief Roundup · 02-05-2014, 11:15 AM

If we trade Flowers won't we have to eat the rest of his signing bonus this year? If that is so it would cost us 7 mil on the cap to cut him this year.
According to over the cap we still have 3 million in 2014, 3 million in 2015, and 1 million in 2016 left of his signing bonus that has to go towards our cap.

Direckshun · 02-05-2014, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

If we trade Flowers won't we have to eat the rest of his signing bonus this year? If that is so it would cost us 7 mil on the cap to cut him this year.
According to over the cap we still have 3 million in 2014, 3 million in 2015, and 1 million in 2016 left of his signing bonus that has to go towards our cap.

According to Over the Cap, he would cost us $3m in 2014 if we traded him away.

Chief Roundup · 02-05-2014, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

According to Over the Cap, he would cost us $3m in 2014 if we traded him away.

The way I read that is it would save us 3.5 million on the cap this year if he was traded or cut. He is due 10.5 mil in base salary.

Chief Roundup · 02-05-2014, 11:25 AM

Not much savings for a premium position in this league. A rookie is going to have a steep learning curve.

Direckshun · 02-05-2014, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

The way I read that is it would save us 3.5 million on the cap this year if he was traded or cut. He is due 10.5 mil in base salary.

hmmmmm...

htismaqe · 02-06-2014, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

This. How do you justify passing McCluster that kind of Jack?

That's about what the Chiefs would give him, maybe more.

I said it a week ago - people are gonna be pissed when McCluster signs.

patteeu · 02-06-2014, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

This is the first I've ever heard of anybody suggesting cutting Derrick Johnson. He has shown zero signs of slowing down, has no injury concerns, is a Pro Bowler, still only 30 years old, and his cap number is decent.

You're only cutting him to save cash. That makes zero sense.

Direckshun doesn't care about winning. He just wants to play us for suckers and line his pockets.

patteeu · 02-06-2014, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If we traded Flowers, I woulnd't turn around and spend a 1st rounder on his replacement.

Especially a replacement he describes as the next Brandon Flowers, i.e. the guy he trades because he's not a scheme fit.

Direckshun · 02-06-2014, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Direckshun doesn't care about winning. He just wants to play us for suckers and line his pockets.

Egggggsellent.

Halfcan · 02-06-2014, 10:56 AM

Cut DJ? Our most consistent D player-not likely.

He will be here next year to break the Chiefs tackle record and many years after that. He will be in the Ring of Fame for the Chiefs.

OldSchool · 02-06-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Especially a replacement he describes as the next Brandon Flowers, i.e. the guy he trades because he's not a scheme fit.

Verrett is much faster and more athletic than Flowers. He's closer to Lardarius Webb and Tim Jennings than he is to being Flowers.

Halfcan · 02-06-2014, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's about what the Chiefs would give him, maybe more.

I said it a week ago - people are gonna be pissed when McCluster signs.

We have the Canadian midget now-so we might let him walk.

02-04-2014, 05:15 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Mock (2/4) It's a little more detailed now that I'm using Over the Cap's Salary Cap Calculator. Assumptions: 1. The Chiefs extend Alex Smith 4 years, $60m ($36m guaranteed), OLB Justin Houston 5 years, $42m ($21m guaranteed), and S Eric Berry 6 years, $38m ($18m guaranteed). 2. The Chiefs trade Brandon Flowers to the Oakland Raiders for a 2nd round pick. 3. The Chiefs restructure WR Dwayne Bowe, OLB Tamba Hali, CB Sean Smith, and K Ryan Succop. 4. The Chiefs resign WR Dexter McCluster to a 4 year, $13m deal ($4m guaranteed), OG Geoff Schwartz to a 3 year, $6m deal. 5. The Chiefs place a 6th round tender on Jerrell Powe. 7. The Chiefs re-sign S Quentin Demps and LS Thomas Gafford to minimal deals. 8. The Chiefs let walk: WR Kyle Williams, OT Brandon Albert, OG Jon Asamoah, DE Tyson Jackson, OLB Frank Zombo, ILB Akeem Jordan, S Kendrick Lewis, S Husain Abdullah 9. The Chiefs cut: TE Anthony Fasano, ILB Derrick Johnson, CB Dunta Robinson 10. The Chiefs sign WR Jeremy Maclin (Eagles) to a 3-year, $15m deal ($1m guaranteed), OT Khalif Barnes (Raiders) to a 1 year, $2m deal, S Chris Clemons (Dolphins) to a 4-year, $20m deal ($4m guaranteed). On with the show: 1.23. CB Jason Verrett, TCU Verrett projects, really, to be the next Brandon Flowers. Sized at about 5'10", he possesses the same physical dimensions with Flowers, along with a sterling record as a physical, fast corner that the Chiefs can pair with Sean Smith in 2014, and with potentially Marcus Cooper or Ron Parker as they continue ascending in 2015. Ultimately, you need players right for your scheme. Brandon Flowers was drafted and served primarily as a Cover 2 corner. He had some success in Crennel's bend-but-don't-break, but it's clear he's not cut out for the high-pressure island that Sutton prefers to run. It's likely that both of the team's starting corners will need to be replaced, but for now the Chiefs are taking a size/scheme/age/cap-friendly upgrade, and netting a 2nd rounder in return. 2.36 (from OAK). TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington Seferian-Jenkins is looking more and more like he's going to slip a bit to the 2nd round as Amaro and Ebron suck all the oxygen out of the 1st round for TEs. This would be a great coup for the Chiefs, as a physical wonder at TE who needs help with his route-running is exactly the kind of talent you hope to land here. 3.87. DE Kelcy Quarles, South Carolina Quarles needs to work on his ground game, no question, but where he really sets himself apart is his relentless passrushing. He stacked up 9.5 sacks last season from the interior position. He is this year's Derek Wolfe, and should spend the offseason battling with Allen Bailey and Mike Catapano to replace Tyson Jackson at DE. 4.119. OLB James Gayle, Virginia Tech Gayle has outstanding size and measurable, plus he had bloodlines in the NFL. He would be a great talent to groom behind Hali and Houston. 5.151. ILB Christian Kirksey, Iowa With the exit of Derrick Johnson, the Chiefs are going to need somebody adept in coverage and reading plays. Kirksey is an outstanding coverage 'backer, and is almost Kuechly-esque in his ability to cover ground. 6.177. ILB Andrew Jackson, Western Kentucky A physical wrecking ball of a player; the Chiefs need somebody more physical to dominate the line of scrimmage behind their DL. 6.183. CB Kendall James, Maine A 5'11" corner with 4.3 speed, Dorsey takes a shot here on a developmental prospect. Last edited by Direckshun; 02-04-2014 at 05:26 PM..
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