Hunt and Alex Smith

[penbrook]

Per Adam Teicher

Clark Hunt and Alex Smith had private talk in locker room. It ended with Hunt saying "Keep your head up."

[Chief Henry]

No wide receivers at all, Bowe is a turd laughing all the way to the bank. Avery needs to be cut tomorrow morning. The O line looked like it had never played a snap of NFL Professional football. Smith was running for his life and the Bronco's just ate us up alive in every possible way. Having said that, Alex Smith needs to grow a sack and needs to become the leader of this team. Some one other than the coaches needs to rally this team because coming out two consecutive games flat as a pancake is not acceptable. I have a hunch the team is guilty of reading their press clippings and it got to their head.

[Kaepernick]

I really didn't think Alex's play was all that bad tonight and was better than the score reflected. He threw some dandy passes when he got any kind of time behind the deficient offensive line.

Alex ended up with a passer rating 10 points higher than Manning, 95.0 for Alex to 85.3 for Manning. Peyton had the offensive line, the RB and all the weapons.

I don't get to see many Chiefs games and as a 49ers fan I can't say I really want to, but watching this game, it seemed Andy's play calling was much worse than Alex's play and Alex's play was really hurt by a lousy offensive line.

I know what you have in Alex and he doesn't push the ball down field or throw to his WRs much or often, but he is a master of the RB/TE short passing dink and dunk and you can easliy win with that if you have a decent defense.

You guys just ran into a buzz saw in Denver pretty much crushing everybody they've faced this year losing only to Seattle (#1 D), Patriots (red hot offense), and the Rams (trap game or just down game for Broncos).

Personnel wise, you still seem 3-4 years from serious AFC super bowl contention.

This loss wasn't on Alex. Not by a long shot. Not from what I could see.

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Why was San Francisco in a position where two special teams screw ups ended their season to begin with

The 2011 Giants-49ers NFC Championship game was between 2 power house defenses killing each other's offenses, and the first offense to blink and make a mistake was going to lose. Only, the Giants made 3 mistakes and the 49ers made 4 mistakes, so we lost.

If your point is that the 49ers offense was poor or mediocre, then agree, point made. Still, it is rare to impossible to make the super bowl with a top 3 defense and a top 3 offense. Pretty much the salary cap era makes you sacrifice mediocrity in one unit to dominance in the other. Both the Giants and 49ers built for defense, by chance or by intention.

A punt glanced off SF Kyle Williams knee in that game exactly the way it glanced off KC Marcus Cooper's knee in tonight's game, and that is 1 of the 2 special teams turnovers that he was referring to, that cost the 49ers to lose to the Giants. The other 3 mistakes were a kick return fumbled to the Giants, and 2 easy interceptions by Eli Manning that were both dropped. Actually, knocked out of one 49er DBs hands by another aggressive DB.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

I really didn't think Alex's play was all that bad tonight and was better than the score reflected. He threw some dandy passes when he got any kind of time behind the deficient offensive line.



Alex ended up with a passer rating 10 points higher than Manning, 95.0 for Alex to 85.3 for Manning. Peyton had the offensive line, the RB and all the weapons.



I don't get to see many Chiefs games and as a 49ers fan I can't say I really want to, but watching this game, it seemed Andy's play calling was much worse than Alex's play and Alex's play was really hurt by a lousy offensive line.



I know what you have in Alex and he doesn't push the ball down field or throw to his WRs much or often, but he is a master of the RB/TE short passing dink and dunk and you can easliy win with that if you have a decent defense.



You guys just ran into a buzz saw in Denver pretty much crushing everybody they've faced this year losing only to Seattle (#1 D), Patriots (red hot offense), and the Rams (trap game or just down game for Broncos).



Personnel wise, you still seem 3-4 years from serious AFC super bowl contention.



This loss wasn't on Alex. Not by a long shot. Not from what I could see.

I'm honestly wondering how many 250-word posts you can make saying the same ****ing shit day in and day out for no ****ing reason. He's been our QB for a season and a half now. We know what we're getting with him when we trot him out on the field.

MOVE ON.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

Personnel wise, you still seem 3-4 years from serious AFC super bowl contention.

In the modern NFL it doesn't take 3-4 years to build a SB team...

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Rausch

In the modern NFL it doesn't take 3-4 years to build a SB team...

That's how long it took to build the Seahawks championship team.

KC's 4 year clock hasn't really started yet given how bad Dorsey's drafts have been.

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Smith's defense gave him the ball back in overtime. Field goal wins the game. What happens?

Three and out, San Francisco never possesses the ball again.

Scape goat Kyle Williams all you want, but you can't go three and ****ing out in a sudden death situation.

Eli Manning actually played worse in that game than Alex. Alex wasn't effective but he was careful. Eli was foolish

Eli threw 2 foolhardy passes straight into the open arms of 49ers DBs on 2 separate plays, either one of those turnovers seals the win for Alex and the 49ers. Now Eli also threw a beautiful pass to tie the game and put us into overtime, so it was a mixed effort. But at the end of the day it was just Eli being foolhardy but also being lucky and getting away with it.

Lets see if I can find the 2 GIFs of the the 2 easy interceptions from Eli our own guys broke up.

Here is the first. #25 has the ball and #38 aggressively runs into him knocking away what should have been interception #1 from Eli. By the way, he knocked #25 out of the game (our best CB) and the later TD pass from Eli was from the lower quality backup who replaced him.




Not a gif but below is a photo of the same safety #38 knocking what should have been the 2nd of Eli's foolish ints away from #22, the cornerback who had the angle on the ball. Again, this 2nd int alone seals the win for the 49ers and the Giants are done.



Eli is a foolhardy gunslinger who needed not 1 but 2 lucky plays where lack of communication between 49ers DBs caused 2 easy interceptions to be dropped. He should have been picked off twice and lost the game handily in regulation.

For all his incompletions, by being more careful with the ball Alex outplayed Eli but Eli was just more lucky on that day.

That is a fact.


Don't even get me started how a too-quick referee whistle deprived the 49ers from an Ahmad Bradshaw fumble that also would have sealed the 49ers win. The ball is out with Bradshaw's knees not down but the idiot refs had already blew the whistle and = not reviewable.




Alex should have gone on to the super bowl, not Eli. But an Eli vs. Brady rematch was a VERY popular outcome so...

[Discuss Thrower]

Wait why are you white knighting Alex Smith..

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Wait why are you white knighting Alex Smith..

Because he's a troll.

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by Rausch

He was given an impossible task this season and he's taken $3it and might end up with a .500 record.

That's much, MUCH better than I thought was possible.

Imagine if we had a GM that built a team around his QB, gave him weapons, protected him, and a HC/OC who knew had to use them all...

The entire forum was talking 4-12 or 6 wins AT BEST after you started 1-2.

[jonzie04]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

That's how long it took to build the Seahawks championship team.

KC's 4 year clock hasn't really started yet given how bad Dorsey's drafts have been.

seattle started with no one. we have A LOT of really good players. it will not take anywhere near 4 years if dorsey isnt a dumb ass

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Because he's a troll.

This is the joy of being a fair and honest person. The biased people on both sides will always attack you because you aren't in one camp or the other. I'm used to it.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

That's how long it took to build the Seahawks championship team.

KC's 4 year clock hasn't really started yet given how bad Dorsey's drafts have been.

It's a 40 YEAR clock sir...

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'm honestly wondering how many 250-word posts you can make saying the same ****ing shit day in and day out for no ****ing reason. He's been our QB for a season and a half now. We know what we're getting with him when we trot him out on the field.

MOVE ON.

Ignore is there for a reason. Use it.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by jonzie04

seattle started with no one. we have A LOT of really good players. it will not take anywhere near 4 years if dorsey isnt a dumb ass

You're overrating the talent on the roster by a wide margin here.

There are some unproven guys who look like they could be good starters (Davis, Kelce, Gaines etc) and a lot of league average guys, and then two really good players in JC and Houston.

Problem with the former is that he's a running back who's about to hit a cliff production wise and the other is a guy who will demand a lot of money in free agency.