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**DaFace** · 08:07 PM

For the five of you who know who he is, Adrian Dater, the beat writer for Avalanche hockey for the Denver Post since 1994, was fired today for being creepy to a girl on Twitter. You can check out the posts on her account here if you'd like, but the key screenshots she posted were these:

Post from May 2013 where he comments about her profile photo:

Spoiler!

Post from October 2013 where he basically says she's not worth debating because she's a woman:

Spoiler!

Recent post where he asks for an uncropped version of her (already suggestive) profile photo:

Spoiler!

The interwebs seem to think that he's an evil bastard who deserves everything coming to him, but I honestly have trouble feeling like the guy should have been FIRED for this. So I figured I'd ask the undoubtedly female friendly CP how you all feel to get some perspective.

Eleazar · 12-03-2014, 10:26 PM

Sure it is. You are representing your employer in public, so whatever you do that might embarrass them in public could be grounds. I am sure he has such a clause in his employment agreement.

**Gadzooks** · 12-03-2014, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I don't even know the genders of the people who work with me.

I'm pretty sure DaFace is a male. (if that helps).

ChiliConCarnage · 12-04-2014, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

drunk-tweeting is bad, m'kay...

Yeah, when I clicked on the link for him being suspended for arguing with fans and sending an email to a cowriter to **** off that's what I first thought. That's a lot like what the new NFL broadcaster Goldberg got released for this year.

I think her exposing his DMs is a bit iffy. The last one wasn't that bad. Dudes a human, if he was doing it with all sorts of women or harassing her constantly.. that's one thing but it never hurts to take a shot

The middle DM is the one that's rough

ClevelandBronco · 12-04-2014, 07:58 AM

When he says he's not going to argue with a woman, it sounds like he might be trying to be polite. It's not like he says he's not going to argue with an empty headed puck bunny.

He probably shouldn't have pulled the show-us-your-tatas move, however.

Sully · 12-04-2014, 08:11 AM

Is this the guy who was cussing people out a few weeks ago on twitter?

Garcia Bronco · 12-04-2014, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief

Yeah, I'm going to agree with AL here. Telling someone you aren't going to argue with a woman, even if he means it literally, that he doesn't argue with women, still gives off bad pub.

I don t argue with women. I won t argue with a woman. And there is nithing wrong with saying so. Good grief

**Buehler445** · 12-04-2014, 09:17 AM

I'm in the probably category. It's different when you deal with the public, and the public is most certainly the paper's customer.

It's not all that different from a retail guy creeping on some chick wearing his uniform standing outside the store. He creeps on too many customers, it's time for him to go.

Or think about it this way, if after you hand a client their report, you catch them after work and say, "tits or GTFO," Rain Man is probably going to be upset.

ThaVirus · 12-04-2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I know it doesn't change anything....but go check out the rest of her twitter pictures. Low cut tops....exposing cleavage.

Plus....what was with the "Good! Glad you liked it" when he first commented on the picture?

"No more.... She was asking for it.

NO MORE."

**alnorth** · 12-04-2014, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I don t argue with women. I won t argue with a woman. And there is nithing wrong with saying so. Good grief

Yes, there is something VERY wrong with saying that, as a columnist, representing a newspaper. You are basically saying that females are an inferior type of human or sub-human who can't be reasoned with, that they are unworthy of you debating an issue with them.

**The Franchise** · 12-04-2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Yes, there is something VERY wrong with saying that, as a columnist, representing a newspaper. You are basically saying that females are an inferior type of human or sub-human who can't be reasoned with, that they are unworthy of you debating an issue with them.

He didn't say "I'm not going to argue with you because you're a woman and you don't know shit". He simply said....I'm not going to argue with a woman.

**The Franchise** · 12-04-2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

"No more.... She was asking for it.

NO MORE."

**Rain Man** · 12-04-2014, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

He didn't say "I'm not going to argue with you because you're a woman and you don't know shit". He simply said....I'm not going to argue with a woman.

I kind of read that as the same thing.

Jimmya · 12-04-2014, 02:22 PM

Agree with Rain Man 100%

**The Franchise** · 12-04-2014, 02:23 PM

I think what it comes down to is that he obviously had issues and probably crossed the line but this woman took it as an opportunity to blow it out of proportion and get a guy fired.

Beef Supreme · 12-04-2014, 03:52 PM

On the one hand, it's ridiculous that someone got fired over this. On the other hand, twitter is stupid.

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Definitely. That kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated.	2	4.00%
Eh, probably. You can't do that kind of thing as a semi-public figure.	9	18.00%
Na, probably not. It was uncalled for, but hardly worth firing someone over.	17	34.00%
Are you crazy? Who the hell gets fired for hitting on a girl?	22	44.00%
I'm a woman whose opinion isn't worth hearing. (I'm completely kidding. Don't hate me.)	0	0%
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12-03-2014, 07:48 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $-1863101	Is this firing justified? For the five of you who know who he is, Adrian Dater, the beat writer for Avalanche hockey for the Denver Post since 1994, was fired today for being creepy to a girl on Twitter. You can check out the posts on her account here if you'd like, but the key screenshots she posted were these: Post from May 2013 where he comments about her profile photo: Spoiler! Post from October 2013 where he basically says she's not worth debating because she's a woman: Spoiler! Recent post where he asks for an uncropped version of her (already suggestive) profile photo: Spoiler! The interwebs seem to think that he's an evil bastard who deserves everything coming to him, but I honestly have trouble feeling like the guy should have been FIRED for this. So I figured I'd ask the undoubtedly female friendly CP how you all feel to get some perspective. Last edited by DaFace; 12-03-2014 at 08:07 PM..
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12-03-2014, 10:26 PM	#46
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Sure it is. You are representing your employer in public, so whatever you do that might embarrass them in public could be grounds. I am sure he has such a clause in his employment agreement.
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12-04-2014, 07:58 AM	#49
ClevelandBronco I'm with the banned. Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $5658955	When he says he's not going to argue with a woman, it sounds like he might be trying to be polite. It's not like he says he's not going to argue with an empty headed puck bunny. He probably shouldn't have pulled the show-us-your-tatas move, however. __________________ "Faith and reason are like two wings on which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of truth ..." – Pope Saint John Paul II
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12-04-2014, 08:11 AM	#50
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	Is this the guy who was cussing people out a few weeks ago on twitter? __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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12-04-2014, 09:17 AM	#52
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1575266	I'm in the probably category. It's different when you deal with the public, and the public is most certainly the paper's customer. It's not all that different from a retail guy creeping on some chick wearing his uniform standing outside the store. He creeps on too many customers, it's time for him to go. Or think about it this way, if after you hand a client their report, you catch them after work and say, "tits or GTFO," Rain Man is probably going to be upset.
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12-04-2014, 02:22 PM	#58
Jimmya Veteran Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10014530	Agree with Rain Man 100%
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12-04-2014, 02:23 PM	#59
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	I think what it comes down to is that he obviously had issues and probably crossed the line but this woman took it as an opportunity to blow it out of proportion and get a guy fired.
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12-04-2014, 03:52 PM	#60
Beef Supreme MVP Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $10019560	On the one hand, it's ridiculous that someone got fired over this. On the other hand, twitter is stupid.
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