Philip Gaines Review

[RunKC]

On my phone so somebody else can post the story.

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This guy looked really good last weekend. It really shows just how big of a loss he was last year and how much faith Dorsey had in this guy to replace Sean Smith.

Hope he keeps it up.

[MMXcalibur]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

That's a stupid remark. Parker , Berry and Sorenson are all solid tacklers. Berry and Sorenson are thumpers too. And Parker has corner capabilities.

Consider the source.
According to that dipstick, he thinks Trevor Siemian could lead tackling drills at practice.

[ToxSocks]

Another shitty performance by Philip Gaines in terms of tackling.

He can't tackle at an NFL level.

On a key third down (3rd & 7?) he had the ball carrier one on one behind the LOS and completely whiffed, allowing the ball carrier to pick up a first down and extend a drive that resulted in the FG that put the game out of reach. He makes that tackle and it's a different game. Instead he completely whiffed. He couldn't even grab a leg and hang on for dear life like a normal CB. Instead he tries to arm tackle around his thighs and just bounces right off.

And then he gives up the big play on a 3rd and 17.....

People say that tackling isn't that a big a deal for a corner....i call bullshit.

Denver's corners tackle. Houston's corners tackle. Phillip Gaines can't tackle anyone.

[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Another shitty performance by Philip Gaines in terms of tackling.

He can't tackle at an NFL level.

On a key third down (3rd & 7?) he had the ball carrier one on one behind the LOS and completely whiffed, allowing the ball carrier to pick up a first down and extend a drive that resulted in the FG that put the game out of reach. He makes that tackle and it's a different game. Instead he completely whiffed. He couldn't even grab a leg and hang on for dear life like a normal CB. Instead he tries to arm tackle around his thighs and just bounces right off.

And then he gives up the big play on a 3rd and 17.....

People say that tackling isn't that a big a deal for a corner....i call bullshit.

Denver's corners tackle. Houston's corners tackle. Phillip Gaines can't tackle anyone.

I saw that play and was pissed as well. But in his defense, the Chiefs D wasn't set. Asswiper saw that and quick snapped to exploit that play. Gaines had 2 guys to cover. DJ was trying to get there, but was too late. I would have liked to have seen Gaines make the plat, but, truth be told, he doomed from the start.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I saw that play and was pissed as well. But in his defense, the Chiefs D wasn't set. Asswiper saw that and quick snapped to exploit that play. Gaines had 2 guys to cover. DJ was trying to get there, but was too late. I would have liked to have seen Gaines make the plat, but, truth be told, he doomed from the start.

Idc if DJ was in position or not. Gaines was. And it's not like Gaines was blocked.

He HAS to make that play. Two weeks in a row now where his inability to tackle has been on full display.

I want to be a Gaines fan. I really do. Secondary players are my favorite position group.

But thus far the only thing i've seen Gaines do well is run with receivers.

He can run with receivers. That's about it. He hasn't show an ability to play the ball or an ability to tackle in the open field.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Another shitty performance by Philip Gaines in terms of tackling.

He can't tackle at an NFL level.

On a key third down (3rd & 7?) he had the ball carrier one on one behind the LOS and completely whiffed, allowing the ball carrier to pick up a first down and extend a drive that resulted in the FG that put the game out of reach. He makes that tackle and it's a different game. Instead he completely whiffed. He couldn't even grab a leg and hang on for dear life like a normal CB. Instead he tries to arm tackle around his thighs and just bounces right off.

And then he gives up the big play on a 3rd and 17.....

People say that tackling isn't that a big a deal for a corner....i call bullshit.

Denver's corners tackle. Houston's corners tackle. Phillip Gaines can't tackle anyone.

You're pissed at Gaines because he couldn't fight through a block and clean up the mess left by our 34 year old veteran MLB who didn't realize where he was suppose to !@#$ing line up?

Gaines had a very good day. And yes, he could've made that tackle if he were one of the best tackling CBs in football. He ain't - no shit.

But he spent a lot of time matched up against on of the best WRs in football and did the job well.

Gaines is about 15th on the list of things to bitch about yesterday.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by O.city

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Check it out

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[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You're pissed at Gaines because he couldn't fight through a block and clean up the mess left by our 34 year old veteran MLB who didn't realize where he was suppose to !@#$ing line up?

Gaines had a very good day. And yes, he could've made that tackle if he were one of the best tackling CBs in football. He ain't - no shit.

But he spent a lot of time matched up against on of the best WRs in football and did the job well.

Gaines is about 15th on the list of things to bitch about yesterday.

You can keep making excuses and week after week he'll keep missing tackles. He did NOT have a great day. I don't know what game you were watching. He had several missed tackles and was beaten often.

I'm not asking him to be the best tackling corner in football. Im asking him to be a competent tackler.

[ToxSocks]

Two weeks in a row now where's had a receiver behind the LOS and whiffed, resulting in 1st downs.

But nah, his inability to tackle isn't an issue. Im sure it'll never cost us any games.....

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Two weeks in a row now where's had a receiver behind the LOS and whiffed, resulting in 1st downs.

But nah, his inability to tackle isn't an issue. Im sure it'll never cost us any games.....

I thought he had a very good day, too.

So did Mellinger, FWIW:

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...102705627.html

Phil Gaines looks good. Very good. His coverage is consistently good, and occasionally excellent. The Texans tried Fuller on a go route against Gaines, and the corner stuck him like velcro. If Gaines turned around, he probably had an interception, but even so, he’s had a strong first two games this year.

He did miss a few tackles, including one on DeAndre Hopkins that cost the Chiefs about 15 yards, but still.

Cornerbacks are going to give it up.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

You can keep making excuses and week after week he'll keep missing tackles. He did NOT have a great day. I don't know what game you were watching. He had several missed tackles and was beaten often.

I'm not asking him to be the best tackling corner in football. Im asking him to be a competent tackler.

If you're asking him to make that play then yes, that's exactly what you're asking him to be. Derrick Johnson - the brains of the defense and the guy that's supposed to be the surest tackler on the squad - he's the guy that ****ed that play up and ****ed it up badly.

Gaines was just the poor bastard left on an island asked to do a job that no corner in football manages with regularity. Even the best aren't going to blow that play up more than half the time.

That would've been an AMAZING play by Gaines and you're using the fact that he didn't make it as a rallying cry. That's ridiculous. And no, he didn't get beat often. The defense gave up a single TD yesterday (over Peters no less) despite being on the field all damn day because the offense couldn't do its job. You want beat often? Look at the other half of the field and even Peters held his own more than he didn't.

[staylor26]

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Two weeks in a row now where's had a receiver behind the LOS and whiffed, resulting in 1st downs.

But nah, his inability to tackle isn't an issue. Im sure it'll never cost us any games.....

Yeah, you're not asking him to be an elite tackler, you're just asking him to fight through blockers to start nailing WRs behind the line of scrimmage after his linebacker ****ing spaces out.

Oh wait, he DID blow up the play you're bitching about last week. I'm sure you're going to give credit to Zombo who pretty much fell on top of the WR after Gaines read and wrecked that screen.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, you're not asking him to be an elite tackler, you're just asking him to fight through blockers to start nailing WRs behind the line of scrimmage after his linebacker ****ing spaces out.

Oh wait, he DID blow up the play you're bitching about last week. I'm sure you're going to give credit to Zombo who pretty much fell on top of the WR after Gaines read and wrecked that screen.

Gaines made two plays like that last week that he's choosing to ignore. One was phenomenal.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I thought he had a very good day, too.

So did Mellinger, FWIW:

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...102705627.html

Phil Gaines looks good. Very good. His coverage is consistently good, and occasionally excellent. The Texans tried Fuller on a go route against Gaines, and the corner stuck him like velcro. If Gaines turned around, he probably had an interception, but even so, he’s had a strong first two games this year.

He did miss a few tackles, including one on DeAndre Hopkins that cost the Chiefs about 15 yards, but still.

Cornerbacks are going to give it up.

It's the same excuse "It's ok he missed tackles because he's a corner".

Bullshit.

Like i said, he can run with receivers. That's great. But he's not a complete corner. He doesn't make plays on the ball and he doesn't tackle.

Im down on Gaines, but he needs to fix that shit, and "he's a corner so he doesn't need to tackle" isn't a valid excuse. Especially when his inability to tackle has resulted in the D's inability to get off the field.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I thought he had a very good day, too.

So did Mellinger, FWIW:

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...102705627.html

Phil Gaines looks good. Very good. His coverage is consistently good, and occasionally excellent. The Texans tried Fuller on a go route against Gaines, and the corner stuck him like velcro. If Gaines turned around, he probably had an interception, but even so, he’s had a strong first two games this year.

He did miss a few tackles, including one on DeAndre Hopkins that cost the Chiefs about 15 yards, but still.

Cornerbacks are going to give it up.

You don't ****ing say?

I was under the impression that they're all Ray Nitschke out there. Detox says that they should be throwing guys out of the way and blowing shit up in the backfield to merely get to competent.