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Old 09-16-2016, 08:49 AM  
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Philip Gaines Review

On my phone so somebody else can post the story.

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This guy looked really good last weekend. It really shows just how big of a loss he was last year and how much faith Dorsey had in this guy to replace Sean Smith.

Hope he keeps it up.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:02 AM   #2
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I think fans know he will be good. They are just concerned he might be injury-prone.

I thought before last year he could have a better 2015 season than Marcus Peters...well that was before Peters had a great season.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:02 AM   #3
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:04 AM   #4
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:09 AM   #5
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He's going to have his hands full with Fuller.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:24 AM   #6
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He's going to have his hands full with Fuller.
He'll face him and Hopkins both since our CBs don't travel. His length and quickness make for a good counter to those two, but it won't be easy.

The front 7 has to show up in the run game and create long yardage situations.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:26 AM   #7
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I really, really wanted to keep Sean Smith, but after seeing what Cooks in the Saints did to him last week after he got his big payday, I think Dorsey he made the right move, even considering the fact that it was reeruned to put him on an island out there with Cooks.

Benched. First game after getting paid.

Gaines just HAS to stay healthy. That's what it all hinges on....

Oh, and there ain't no way Gaines is getting torched for 98 yards.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:45 AM   #8
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I actually like Gaines on Fuller. Both guys are athletes with some rough edges to their games. Fuller's not going to go out there and kill Gaines with technique nor is he going to be able to just out-athlete him. Gaines vs. Fuller should be a draw.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:03 AM   #9
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I just wish Gaines would tackle. Yes, i read the article and i disagree with him regarding his physicality. Peters is a poor tackler as well.

I like our corners, don't get me wrong. But this might be the worst pair of tackling corners i've seen on the Chiefs in the last 10 years.

Peters doesn't look like a particularly willing tackler. Especially compared to Brandon Flowers, who was tremendous in run support. Gaines DOES, but he seems to just bounce off ball carriers every time he attempts to tackle. Hell, even in the article the final Gif shows him bouncing off (Travis Benjamin?) on that WR screen even though he had a clear crack at him.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:04 AM   #10
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I actually like Gaines on Fuller. Both guys are athletes with some rough edges to their games. Fuller's not going to go out there and kill Gaines with technique nor is he going to be able to just out-athlete him. Gaines vs. Fuller should be a draw.
I agree. That's going to be a fun matchup to watch.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:05 AM   #11
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The good news is, tackling for a corner is pretty far down the list of things he needs to do.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:07 AM   #12
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The good news is, tackling for a corner is pretty far down the list of things he needs to do.
Not on Sunday it wasn't. For the first 3 quarters the Chiefs couldn't tackle. The corners included.

They were getting to the ball carriers just fine. They just couldn't wrap up. One of Melvin Gordon's big runs came off a missed tackle by Gains.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:09 AM   #13
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Not on Sunday it wasn't. For the first 3 quarters the Chiefs couldn't tackle. The corners included.

They were getting to the ball carriers just fine. They just couldn't wrap up. One of Melvin Gordon's big runs came off a missed tackle by Gains.
If your corners are missing tackles on running backs, you've got bigger issues than that.

You want your corners to be willing tacklers obviously, but that's not a death blow if they cant.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:14 AM   #14
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Not on Sunday it wasn't. For the first 3 quarters the Chiefs couldn't tackle. The corners included.

They were getting to the ball carriers just fine. They just couldn't wrap up. One of Melvin Gordon's big runs came off a missed tackle by Gains.
It's like an outfielders arm.

Sure, an outfielder having a cannon is a good thing. And it could well be the difference between a good OFer and an elite one.

But you can be a good OFer without a good throwing arm. If you can chase it down in the gaps and provide some good offense, your arm is secondary.

Corners are the same way. Sure, you'd like your CBs to be excellent tacklers but Revis never has been. Deion was shit. Apart from Sherman, how many of the elite CBs in the game are also plus tacklers?

It matters but O.City is right, there are a slew of things that matter more for cornerbacks. Hell, just being where you're supposed to be is as important. Brandon Browner is a great tackler; when he's lucky enough to be near the football. Meanwhile Gaines couldn't finish the tackle on that screen but simply being there blew the play apart. Tackling is a secondary concern for cornerbacks.
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If your corners are missing tackles on running backs, you've got bigger issues than that.

You want your corners to be willing tacklers obviously, but that's not a death blow if they cant.
I agree for the most part. The issue there is why was Gordon that far down the field for Gaines to be put in a 1 on 1 situation. That's on the front 7
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