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Old 01-05-2014, 02:42 PM  
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We need to extend Alex Smith

Alex played the game of his life and he was BETRAYED by the defense

Alex Smith dropped 44 points on the Colts and somehow still lost. Alex is a hero. 44 points can win you a SUPERBOWL. What happened to the best defense in the league? They sure weren't out there tonight. You could cut all of them and it wouldn't matter. What matters is having Alex.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:15 AM   #706
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This thread is comedy ****ing gold...

Let me preface this by saying again - Smith had a great game.

But some of y'all are ****ing hypocrites.

People bitch and moan all year about Bowe raising his game. What's he do in the playoffs?

150 and a score. Great game, yet people just want to focus on one play.

Meanwhile, Alex raises HIS game as well, and people want to ignore the mistakes he made.

Some of y'all don't even know what your arguing about anymore.

There's not a player or coach who is blameless in this loss. No one played/coached a perfect game. If it makes you feel better to blame just Bowe or Lewis, while absolving others, feel free.

But you look like petulant children in doing so.
I have to disagree, the offensive players including Alex and Bowe played awesome and did more then should be required to win a game.

The play calling and Defense was awful, 44 points on the road in a playoff game in the NFL is incredible.

SORRY, poor defense and Game management by Coaches lost this game.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:16 AM   #707
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Wait a minute here! Its ok to talk about Alex's awesome stats, but not Bowes or the 4 turnovers forced by the D that enabled that 28 point lead dammit!
If I had the time or desire to go back and watch that game, I could come up with a laundry list of mistakes made on both sides of the ball.

And all of those mistakes led to the perfect storm of giving up a 28 point 3rd quarter lead. Not just the mistakes that help a particular argument.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:21 AM   #708
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If I had the time or desire to go back and watch that game, I could come up with a laundry list of mistakes made on both sides of the ball.

And all of those mistakes led to the perfect storm of giving up a 28 point 3rd quarter lead. Not just the mistakes that help a particular argument.
Exactly, without question. I have had a hard time all week looking to next year with any enthusiasm at all, but maybe this will make them stronger hopefully.

I know it will give the Colts a whole knew sense of confidence after what they pulled of.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:22 AM   #709
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This thread is comedy ****ing gold...

Let me preface this by saying again - Smith had a great game.

But some of y'all are ****ing hypocrites.

People bitch and moan all year about Bowe raising his game. What's he do in the playoffs?

150 and a score. Great game, yet people just want to focus on one play.

Meanwhile, Alex raises HIS game as well, and people want to ignore the mistakes he made.

Some of y'all don't even know what your arguing about anymore.

There's not a player or coach who is blameless in this loss. No one played/coached a perfect game. If it makes you feel better to blame just Bowe or Lewis, while absolving others, feel free.

But you look like petulant children in doing so.
I agree and I am pretty sure that people can point to a play to criticize anybody on this team if you genuinely don't like said player.
I am not saying Smith played perfect but I will take his performance in a playoff game every time and hope something else doesn't completely fall apart.Before it was everything else needs to be perfect for Smith to do it.
Now it's more like don't **** up on a historical scale and you can win with him in the playoffs. Which is what the defense did.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:22 AM   #710
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I have to disagree, the offensive players including Alex and Bowe played awesome and did more then should be required to win a game.

The play calling and Defense was awful, 44 points on the road in a playoff game in the NFL is incredible.

SORRY, poor defense and Game management by Coaches lost this game.
What you think should be required and what was required to win that game are two different things.

I don't care if the offense puts up 50 and loses - if there were plays in the game that contributed to the comeback, then sorry, but they share part of the blame.

"They shouldn't have to..." is not acceptable. It's a 60 minute game, and even one extended drive in the 2nd half changes the outcome.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:23 AM   #711
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He had no reason what so ever to jump. That was a PERFECT pass. He never jumps he doesn't get pushed out.

How anyone can not see how beautiful that pass was, INTO coverage might I add. You know, something Alex Smith WONT do.

Is beyond me.
Not a perfect pass.

Bowe slightly beat his man and could have caught a perfect pass. Bowe's jump was a way to slow down because the pass was slightly behind him (look how far he has to turn his body to catch it). Had the pass been another yard in front of him, and a little more inside, he likely could have caught it without jumping, and without breaking his stride, and may have had a better chance to stay in bounds.

People want Bowe to not jump, but to high point the ball (no contradiction there at all). Had Gordon jumped,he probably could have made a play on the ball that way. Bowe had to jump to compete for a ball that Gordon was in better position to get his hands on. Instead Gordon committed to pushing Bowe out of bounds, which he was successful in doing since the pass was slightly behind Bowe. People want Bowe to slow down, but why would he need to do that if pass was PERFECT?

The whole play was low percentage. Not sure what Reid was thinking when he called that one.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:29 AM   #712
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What you think should be required and what was required to win that game are two different things.

I don't care if the offense puts up 50 and loses - if there were plays in the game that contributed to the comeback, then sorry, but they share part of the blame.

"They shouldn't have to..." is not acceptable. It's a 60 minute game, and even one extended drive in the 2nd half changes the outcome.
What total and complete BULLSHIT, every play counts every time.

If Alex had thrown one INT you would have been the first one " See see he sucks ".

At least have a little integrity, the Defense sucked balls, complete failure on their part there is no debate.

Teams win and Teams lose, it takes every player.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:32 AM   #713
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Let me be clear I'm not going to try to say Alex or the offense were perfect. The fact is they weren't. Alex,Bowe,Gray all made mistakes for sure.

However.......

Even with their mistakes the offense put up enough points that win over 99% of games in the NFL. That can't be ignored. Were some of those points off turnovers yes they were. But do you not remember that this team found a way to **** up 1st and goal from the 1 and walk away with 0 points last season. Now that was a different team but the point is no situation is a given score. This mindset that some have that for some reason points don't count for an offense if the drive is not 80 yards is just a excuse for the offense for doing well. If the offense doesn't do there job they walk away with 0 points like we saw time and again last year.

Now I'm also not saying that the defense didn't do anything to help. They did. They made some plays. But they failed far more then the offense. When your side of the ball fails to win a game that is won 99% of the time when the other side does something I'm sorry but that's on the defense. That's what lost this team the game.It's that simple
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:33 AM   #714
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What total and complete BULLSHIT, every play counts every time.

If Alex had thrown one INT you would have been the first one " See see he sucks ".

At least have a little integrity, the Defense sucked balls, complete failure on their part there is no debate.

Teams win and Teams lose, it takes every player.
Yet you're solely blaming the defense?
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:36 AM   #715
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Yet you're solely blaming the defense?
No not at all. I'm placing most blame on coaching.

There was no game strategy, no plan no game management at all.

Sometimes game planning and game management is important.

How many time did we blitz in the 2nd half? It seems like never.

The game was miss managed by the coaches.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:39 AM   #716
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What total and complete BULLSHIT, every play counts every time.

If Alex had thrown one INT you would have been the first one " See see he sucks ".

At least have a little integrity, the Defense sucked balls, complete failure on their part there is no debate.

Teams win and Teams lose, it takes every player.
And let's ignore the fact that he did have a HUGE turnover that played a role in the loss, and I've still said he played a great game.

Again, there's not a player - offense or defense - who played a perfect game. To blame one side of the ball is ridiculous. Everyone played a role.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:40 AM   #717
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No not at all. I'm placing most blame on coaching.

There was no game strategy, no plan no game management at all.

Sometimes game planning and game management is important.

How many time did we blitz in the 2nd half? It seems like never.

The game was miss managed by the coaches.
There's your problem. You're looking for one area to blame.

ALL areas are to blame. They ALL made mistakes that played a role in losing a 28 point 3rd quarter lead.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:45 AM   #718
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There's your problem. You're looking for one area to blame.

ALL areas are to blame. They ALL made mistakes that played a role in losing a 28 point 3rd quarter lead.
Ok so lets do this.

First, If you could get that game from AS in every game for the next 5 years would you take it?

Second, If got that game from your Defense every game for the next 5 years would it take it?

Third, If you coaches managed games that way for the next 5 years would you take it?
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This thread is comedy ****ing gold...

Let me preface this by saying again - Smith had a great game.

But some of y'all are ****ing hypocrites.

People bitch and moan all year about Bowe raising his game. What's he do in the playoffs?

150 and a score. Great game, yet people just want to focus on one play.

Meanwhile, Alex raises HIS game as well, and people want to ignore the mistakes he made.

Some of y'all don't even know what your arguing about anymore.

There's not a player or coach who is blameless in this loss. No one played/coached a perfect game. If it makes you feel better to blame just Bowe or Lewis, while absolving others, feel free.

But you look like petulant children in doing so.
I agree as far as this goes. Both had very good games. Alex arguably made a couple mistakes as did Bowe. I think people point to Bowe's mistake more because that one was the nail in the coffin. All the other mistakes that any other player made up to that point were possible to overcome.

I could also argue that Alex's errors were either negligible or were in some part contributed to by other players i.e. Gray admitting to slowing on the route that Alex over threw, the bad blocking on the fumble, the intentional ground that amounts to the same as the sack.

Alex played a hell of a game. Is he at fault for the loss? Only in the sense of it being a team game and that his play wasn't "perfect". Is it reasonable to place any real blame on him? No, I really don't think so. If you're looking at the game in hindsight and thinking "what can we change to make sure that we win this game next time?" the answer will likely have very little to do with Alex.
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I don't blame Bowe at all, I think he lost is place on the field and that is why he came down out of bounds. It happens.

I blame Sutton and to lesser degree Reid.

The D did not need to stop them every time, they just need to slow them down.

Every ****ing play should have been a run in the 2nd half.

The Chiefs had them right where they needed them, if you run the run every time just a couple of first downs seals the win.
Realistically speaking, you can't run the ball every play- especially when you're down to your 2nd and 3rd string RBs that are averaging less than 4 YPC.

At the very least, though, we should have been bleeding the hell out of the play clock. Going up 38-10 with 12 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, the clock was more the enemy than the team we were facing should have been. At that point, Reid had an obligation to get out of Indy as quickly as possible to preserve the lead and avoid further risk of injury. Why we weren't letting that sucker go down to 0:01 every offensive play is beyond me...
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