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Old 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM  
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Pats Cheating Comfirmed
According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

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Old 01-22-2015, 04:31 PM   #721
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:32 PM   #722
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I'm arguing about how people tend to transfer problems from players to the league because they don't want to dislike the players.

Ray Rice punches his wife in the face ... suddenly Goodell needs to be fire

Brady cheats ... suddenly Goodell needs to be fire


one second Goodell is too strict and people complain about the No Fun League.

next second, Goodell is cheating because he's not strict enough


beyond stupid
More like Goodell is a horrible commissioner because he's inconsistent and holds different teams/players to different standards. It's the same exact thing that the NCAA gets criticized for.
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:33 PM   #723
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I'm arguing about how people tend to transfer problems from players to the league because they don't want to dislike the players.

Ray Rice punches his wife in the face ... suddenly Goodell needs to be fire

Brady cheats ... suddenly Goodell needs to be fire


one second Goodell is too strict and people complain about the No Fun League.

next second, Goodell is cheating because he's not strict enough


beyond stupid
I don't see it that way. IMO, people are turning on Goodell because they want to see consistency.

It started as a Ray Rice story. At that moment, no one cared about Goodell.

Then he made a bad judgement call and lied, thus creating a whole seperate issue revolving around himself.
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:33 PM   #724
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Nothing's more ridiculous than the continued denial and deflection coming out of Foxboro from both the organization and the fans.
I expect you to be about as bad as Hootie. Don't let me down.
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:34 PM   #725
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i don't think it can go unpunished now

the Brady press conference ruined that

after Ray Rice, Goodell has no choice

someone is going down, and hard
Nope.

If there was going to be any sort of substantial punishment beyond a token fine, there would not have been any pressers.

Goodell isn't dumb enough to tarnish his organization's biggest product.
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:41 PM   #727
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The problem is that the league can't PROVE anyone but the equipment manager/ballboy really did anything. Unless the equipment gives up any chance at another job in the NFL and squeals on somebody.

I believe the league has rules about Burden of Proof.

The NFL Players association isn't going to let the league penalize Brady unless the league meets that proof.


NFLPA doesnt' give a shit whether Brady did anything wrong, they are going into lawyer mode.
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The problem is that the league can't PROVE anyone but the equipment manager/ballboy really did anything. Unless the equipment gives up any chance at another job in the NFL and squeals on somebody.

I believe the league has rules about Burden of Proof.

The NFL Players association isn't going to let the league penalize Brady unless the league meets that proof.


NFLPA doesnt' give a shit whether Brady did anything wrong, they are going into lawyer mode.
The "proof" for Bountygate was largely bullshit and unconvincing, yet they still got hammered.
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The "proof" for Bountygate was largely bullshit and unconvincing, yet they still got hammered.
The coaches got hammered.


The players didn't.
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The coaches got hammered.


The players didn't.
Four players got suspended.
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The coaches got hammered.


The players didn't.
I think Vilma was suspended for a year.

EDIT: overturned on appeal: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/83...-appeals-panel
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Four players got suspended.
and how much of those suspension was lifted or modified later on?
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and how much of those suspension was lifted or modified later on?
They were overturned months later when Tagliabue was brought in to clean up Goodell's mess.
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It's pretty sad that this will largely go unpunished. Payton gets a suspension for a year for not breaking any rules to speak of. Brady will get told not to do it again.
Err...what? The NFL established that Payton knew of the bounty program, didn't stop it, and then tried to cover it up.
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