Kiper's mock -- 1-16 - Page 5

jlscorpio · 01-22-2009, 01:00 AM

I'm not wild over Sanchez, but Kiper probably knows more than I do. IMO, you take BPA in the top 5, if not top 10. I think DE is our biggest need, but that would be a huge reach at #3 overall, and can probably be addressed in Rd 2.

1.Detroit Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
2 St. Louis Andre Smith OT Alabama
3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC
4 Seattle Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
5 Cleveland Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
6 Cincinnati Jason Smith OT Baylor
7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
8 Jacksonville Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St.
10 San Francisco Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn St.
11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St.
12 Denver B.J. Raji DT Boston College
13 Washington Brian Orakpo DE Texas
14 New Orleans Vontae Davis CB Illinois
15 Houston Everette Brown DE Florida St.
16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia

Sam Hall · 01-23-2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Give us examples.

Jordan Gross
Vernon Carey
Jon Stinchcomb
Khalif Barnes
Max Starks
Willie Colon
Chris Kemoeatu
Floyd Womack
Jahri Evans
Cory Procter
Harvey Dahl
Jason Brown
Nick Cole
Ben Wilkerson

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-23-2009, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Jordan Gross
Vernon Carey
Jon Stinchcomb
Khalif Barnes
Max Starks
Willie Colon
Chris Kemoeatu
Floyd Womack
Jahri Evans
Cory Procter
Harvey Dahl
Jason Brown
Nick Cole
Ben Wilkerson

You just copied and pasted the free agent list.

If you're going to state that the Chiefs can upgrade, you have to give specific examples.

Otherwise, it's just BS.

ChiefsCountry · 01-23-2009, 02:01 AM

There is 4 guys on that list worth going after - Barnes, Evans, Brown and Carey. Gross would but you would have to pay LT money for a RT which is stupid. Evans is a RFA so scratch him off. Which leaves Barnes, Brown, and Carey.

Mecca · 01-23-2009, 02:05 AM

The way it was setup at SC was for most of the defense to leave and be young next year while the offense returning all but 1 starter who wasn't a huge deal anyway in Patrick Turner would carry the team..

With Sanchez leaving that all changes because now you have to break in another QB and frankly Barkley isn't going to play and the other 2 guys weren't great shakes heading into this past season...

Sanchez is without a doubt a top 10 pick, Carroll has told players to leave sure he had a player to replace them, Sanchez declaring for himself which is what he did, he made the best decision for his own personal interest. Carroll is upset because even as a SC fan I know this Mark Sanchez is basically the difference in USC maybe being national champion next year and having the first season without 11 wins in 8 years....

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-23-2009, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

There is 4 guys on that list worth going after - Barnes, Evans, Brown and Carey. Gross would but you would have to pay LT money for a RT which is stupid. Evans is a RFA so scratch him off. Which leaves Barnes, Brown, and Carey.

I don't think Parcells lets Carey go anywhere.

Brown may be the only guy and he's a right guard.

Barnes is shit. I would really hate the to see the Chief convert another left tackle over to the right side.

Just ****ing draft a right tackle in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th and be done.

driver2 · 01-23-2009, 07:59 AM

Kiper is a tool! Rumor out of Detroit is They are going to pass on Stafford and go ol/dl.
This throws everything up in the air. I wouldn't be suprised if they went rb in the 1st.

I'm new here whats this casino cash thing?

Brock · 01-23-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Stafford looks legit, but I get the feeling some people want a quarterback just for the sake of drafting a quarterback. I agree with Pete Carroll that Sanchez shouldn't have come out yet.

But you're fine with taking him if he lights it up at the combine?

Sam Hall · 01-23-2009, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You just copied and pasted the free agent list.

If you're going to state that the Chiefs can upgrade, you have to give specific examples.

Otherwise, it's just BS.

There are several players on that list who are better than what the Chiefs have.

Sam Hall · 01-23-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

But you're fine with taking him if he lights it up at the combine and the Chiefs sign a couple offense linemen?

FYP

I'm fine with Sanchez if Pioli likes him, but they need a better offensive line.

Brock · 01-23-2009, 09:40 AM

[QUOTE=Sam Hall;5417813]

Quote:

FYP

I'm fine with Sanchez if Pioli likes him, but they need a better offensive line.

Seems to me if you think Carroll was right, then taking Sanchez with a number 3 overall pick should seem like a bad thing to do, no matter how he performed at the combine.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-23-2009, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

There are several players on that list who are better than what the Chiefs have.

Well, as I asked you earlier, please tell me which players you'd sign.

Don't give me this "there's much better players" BS.

Man up.

**The Franchise** · 01-23-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't think Parcells lets Carey go anywhere.

Brown may be the only guy and he's a right guard.

Barnes is shit. I would really hate the to see the Chief convert another left tackle over to the right side.

Just ****ing draft a right tackle in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th and be done.

Scout.com has Brown listed at center. If he can play center....then sign him as our #1 FA and move Niswanger to RG. Grab a RT in the 3rd or 4th round and our O-line isn't THAT bad anymore.

I say #1 FA because I'd love to have Suggs here but I don't think the Ravens will be letting him leave.

Sam Hall · 01-23-2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, as I asked you earlier, please tell me which players you'd sign.

Don't give me this "there's much better players" BS.

Man up.

Gross, Carey, Stinchcomb, Starks, Colon, Kemoeatu, Evans, Procter, Dahl, Brown, Cole and Wilkerson are guys I'd look at. I don't think you can come after me like you're an expert about this. Nobody knows what Pioli will do, but you can't say they don't have options in free agency.

DJ's left nut · 01-23-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blaise

I don't think Seattle takes Crabtree.

That's the only cinch pick I see in the entire draft. I have no clue who else will go where, but I'm nearly certain that Seattle will take Crabtree if he's there.

I think I'd actually take him at 3rd, but nobody asked me.

Micjones · 01-23-2009, 12:51 PM

I'd gladly take Jason Brown and Khalif Barnes.
Move Niswanger back to Right Guard.

New Center, Right Guard, and Right Tackle.

01-22-2009, 01:00 AM
jlscorpio Veteran Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Casino cash: $10004900	Kiper's mock -- 1-16 I'm not wild over Sanchez, but Kiper probably knows more than I do. IMO, you take BPA in the top 5, if not top 10. I think DE is our biggest need, but that would be a huge reach at #3 overall, and can probably be addressed in Rd 2. 1.Detroit Matthew Stafford QB Georgia 2 St. Louis Andre Smith OT Alabama 3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC 4 Seattle Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech 5 Cleveland Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest 6 Cincinnati Jason Smith OT Baylor 7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri 8 Jacksonville Eugene Monroe OT Virginia 9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St. 10 San Francisco Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn St. 11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St. 12 Denver B.J. Raji DT Boston College 13 Washington Brian Orakpo DE Texas 14 New Orleans Vontae Davis CB Illinois 15 Houston Everette Brown DE Florida St. 16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
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01-23-2009, 02:01 AM	#63
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $1758752	There is 4 guys on that list worth going after - Barnes, Evans, Brown and Carey. Gross would but you would have to pay LT money for a RT which is stupid. Evans is a RFA so scratch him off. Which leaves Barnes, Brown, and Carey.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2077050	The way it was setup at SC was for most of the defense to leave and be young next year while the offense returning all but 1 starter who wasn't a huge deal anyway in Patrick Turner would carry the team.. With Sanchez leaving that all changes because now you have to break in another QB and frankly Barkley isn't going to play and the other 2 guys weren't great shakes heading into this past season... Sanchez is without a doubt a top 10 pick, Carroll has told players to leave sure he had a player to replace them, Sanchez declaring for himself which is what he did, he made the best decision for his own personal interest. Carroll is upset because even as a SC fan I know this Mark Sanchez is basically the difference in USC maybe being national champion next year and having the first season without 11 wins in 8 years....
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01-23-2009, 07:59 AM	#66
driver2 Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $10005870	Kiper is a tool! Rumor out of Detroit is They are going to pass on Stafford and go ol/dl. This throws everything up in the air. I wouldn't be suprised if they went rb in the 1st. I'm new here whats this casino cash thing? Last edited by driver2; 01-23-2009 at 08:05 AM..
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01-23-2009, 12:51 PM	#75
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	I'd gladly take Jason Brown and Khalif Barnes. Move Niswanger back to Right Guard. New Center, Right Guard, and Right Tackle. __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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