Chiefs Possible Chiefs\Saints trade - Page 5

C-Mac · 04-25-2008, 09:22 AM

McShay's blog...

DE Chris Long will be the Chiefs' pick if he's available, but should he be off the board Kansas City will want to retreat. swapping first-round picks with New Orleans and bringing [Jamaal]Brown into the fold would be an attractive scenario, as the Chiefs could then opt for another offensive lineman at No. 10 or get a much better value on their preferred defensive end, Derrick Harvey. And don't forget that extra picks beyond the swap of first-rounders would likely be included as well, so this would be a hard deal for Kansas City to turn down.

Frazod · 04-25-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by StcChief

This could be a "butts in the seats" move by Saints since Dorsey is an LSU Tiger....

Certainly that's a major part of it.

**the Talking Can** · 04-25-2008, 11:07 AM

so, what's the scoop on Brown then?

teams don't usually bail on young, signed, LTs

Pitt Gorilla · 04-25-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

so, what's the scoop on Brown then?

teams don't usually bail on young, signed, LTs

Yeah, something would have to be up there. Perhaps his injury is really slowing him down.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

Some are high on here. Jammal Brown and the No. 10 pick SMOKES whoever is available at No. 5. And I'm one of Dorsey's biggest fans. We couldn't possibly dream of raping the Saints like that.

QFT.

I've never had much interest in trading down, but if for some reason there's even a sliver of truth to this, we need to try and pull it off.

And FWIW, they've been (Saints) talking about moving up for Dorsey OR Ellis for a week to ten days.

They have to get ahead of at least Cincinnati, who will absolutely take Ellis if he's there.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-25-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I bet if this deal happens, it happens with St. Louis at 2, and not us.

And I don't see the Rams moving down that far, at any cost. Not from what I've heard/read around town for the last month.

Probably why our name has been brought into discussions.

DT Fan · 04-25-2008, 11:12 AM

So which is the better scenario for us: it goes Dorsey, Ryan, Gholston/McFadden so that we can draft Chris Long, or it goes Long, Ryan, Gholston/McFadden so we can draft Dorsey or trade him for Jamal Brown and #10?

Not even sure which to root for (but I'm definitely going to be rooting for Atlanta or a trade partner to call Matt Ryan's name).

JBucc · 04-25-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

so, what's the scoop on Brown then?

teams don't usually bail on young, signed, LTs

It seems like the Saints feel they have enough depth to replace him and that he doesn't get along with the coaches real well. Most Saint's fans seem to think trading him is a retarted move.

Adept Havelock · 04-25-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Let me go on record as saying that if the Saints want to give up a young, very good LT, who makes peanuts, plus their 10 for our 5, I would do it in about one second.

Sounds pretty good to me as well. I think I could live with it.

keg in kc · 04-25-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And I don't see the Rams moving down that far, at any cost. Not from what I've heard/read around town for the last month.

Probably why our name has been brought into discussions.

I don't either, but my guess is the Rams are taking Dorsey, which is why if this trade happens, I think it's with them and not us. I don't think there's any way on earth Dorsey makes it to 5.

I don't see the 'aints making the same trade for Ellis.

JBucc · 04-25-2008, 11:17 AM

Apr. 24 - 11:03 pm et

The Rams have "all but ruled out" a trade down, according to ESPN's John Clayton.
Apparently the Rams aren't serious about pursuing New Orleans' offer of Jammal Brown, assuming it's true. Clayton says St. Louis doesn't want to move all the way to No. 10. The Saints now are expected to turn their efforts to Sedrick Ellis, which could lead to a deal with Baltimore or New England.

I don't have a link, I got it off another board, but it's from rotoworld.

**the Talking Can** · 04-25-2008, 11:18 AM

thanks

keg in kc · 04-25-2008, 11:19 AM

Wow, there's a radio guy from Atlanta on with Petro right now, and he says "don't be surprised if the Falcons take Albert at 3, if they stay put". Apparently he's spent a few days in Atlanta in the last week, and nobody's talking about it. He then took him as his mock pick in the 2-minute drill draft Soren's doing.

Swanman · 04-25-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Anyone else think McShay has mutiple personalities? My God, McSchtick, pick a mock and stick with it. It's pretty obvious he doesn't know what the Chiefs are going to do.

It's also pretty clear that he doesn't know his asshole from his elbow. Last night in ESPN's mock when Gholston was taken at #4, McDickHead threw a fit, saying he has Gholston at 15. I would say his analysis is unwatchable, but it does contain a lot of comedic value, so that redeems him a tiny bit.

Archie Bunker · 04-25-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Wow, there's a radio guy from Atlanta on with Petro right now, and he says "don't be surprised if the Falcons take Albert at 3, if they stay put". Apparently he's spent a few days in Atlanta in the last week, and nobody's talking about it. He then took him as his mock pick in the 2-minute drill draft Soren's doing.

I can't remember the last time a player has shot up the charts like Albert has.

**The Franchise** · 04-25-2008, 11:26 AM

So where does our BPA go....if the trade happens.

We get Jammal Brown and the #10 pick.

So now we have our LT and we still pick #10 and #17.

Do we then try and trade back up with the Pats to #7 to draft Ryan if he's still there?

Do we stay put and grab a DE at #10?

Who do we grab at #17? Mike Jenkins the CB?

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DT Fan Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	So which is the better scenario for us: it goes Dorsey, Ryan, Gholston/McFadden so that we can draft Chris Long, or it goes Long, Ryan, Gholston/McFadden so we can draft Dorsey or trade him for Jamal Brown and #10? Not even sure which to root for (but I'm definitely going to be rooting for Atlanta or a trade partner to call Matt Ryan's name).
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JBucc MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Casino cash: $10004952	Apr. 24 - 11:03 pm et The Rams have "all but ruled out" a trade down, according to ESPN's John Clayton. Apparently the Rams aren't serious about pursuing New Orleans' offer of Jammal Brown, assuming it's true. Clayton says St. Louis doesn't want to move all the way to No. 10. The Saints now are expected to turn their efforts to Sedrick Ellis, which could lead to a deal with Baltimore or New England. I don't have a link, I got it off another board, but it's from rotoworld.
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04-25-2008, 11:26 AM	#75
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	So where does our BPA go....if the trade happens. We get Jammal Brown and the #10 pick. So now we have our LT and we still pick #10 and #17. Do we then try and trade back up with the Pats to #7 to draft Ryan if he's still there? Do we stay put and grab a DE at #10? Who do we grab at #17? Mike Jenkins the CB?
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