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Old 08-14-2008, 01:25 AM  
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Woman gets ticketed for dropping f-bomb in a Walmart

Wow. Can we finally say backwoods Texas is a "special" place?

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Mother ticketed for swearing in Wal-Mart

By Laura Whitley

LA MARQUE, TX (KTRK) -- A woman is in trouble for cursing inside a busy store in La Marque. An assistant fire marshal heard her, and wrote her a ticket on the spot.

But investigators say that's not the only reason she ended up with a citation. The incident happened inside the Wal-Mart off I-45, the night before Tropical Storm Edouard hit.

"She should have gotten a ticket. She's lucky she didn't go to jail," said one shopper.

The woman was responding to a recent incident which sent a mother home with a ticket for cursing in public.

The shopper continued, "Because, you're in public. You can't do that."

That's exactly what La Marque's assistant fire marshal, Alfred Decker, tried to tell Kathryn Fridge, 28, when he allegedly overheard her use the 'f-word' in the store last week.

"He said, 'Ma'am, please refrain from using that language. You're not allowed to cuss in public like that,'" explained La Marque Fire Department Chief Todd Zacherl.

Zacherl spoke on Decker's behalf. He said the officer's warning to Fridge was only met with more expletives.

"I think he just originally went to just ask her politely not to use that type of language," Zacherl said. "Things escalated to the point where he had to do something. He couldn't just walk away."

The single mother walked away with a ticket, and concerns, say the chief, about his assistant fire marshal's actions. Zacherl says as far as he can tell, Decker responded appropriately.

"He said he did have to place cuffs on her in the parking lot because he couldn't get her to calm down," Zacherl said.

Cursing in public is certainly not a federal case. But people do get in trouble for it, just usually not at a Wal-Mart.

Zacherl explained, "These are the type of tickets you would find around the Kemah Boardwalk, things like that, or outside of a bar or something."

Most people we spoke with about the incident sided with the officer, but not everyone.

"It depends on what the reason is," said one woman. "She might have had a reason. She could have had a bad day and somebody just touched her wrong."

We made several unsuccessful attempts to contact Fridge. She was ticketed for disorderly conduct. She will either have to pay it, or go before a judge.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:53 AM   #61
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That's your private interpretation. You are welcome to it. There are established standards of public decency.

Liberty does not preclude civic responsibility.
If a person is going to have their delicate sensibilities damaged by the chance that they might hear a word deemed inappropriate by another expressing their freedom to say whatever they want, then that person should not leave their house. Ever.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:58 AM   #62
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I for one, agree with the action. If I had been in that store with my wife and daughter, I would have been offended. In fact, either my wife or I would have probably confronted her. If she had laid into my wife or me the way she did the fire marshall, the situation could have gotten out of hand. It wasn't like he walked up to her and wrote her a ticket. He just asked her to refrain from the foul language in public. When she went into her tiraid, she was begging for a ticket imho. She got what she deserved.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:58 AM   #63
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Being inconsiderate shouldn't result in a ticket/arrest.


What would be the appropriate number of times for him to tell the woman to stop?
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Whats funny is, i think most people would agree that the only place foul language in public is acceptable is at the typical airport flight counter.
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If a person is going to have their delicate sensibilities damaged by the chance that they might hear a word deemed inappropriate by another expressing their freedom to say whatever they want, then that person should not leave their house. Ever.
Now, this is amnedable if someone politely asks her to keep it down, and she loses her shit with them.
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:02 AM   #66
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Whats funny is, i think most people would agree that the only place that foul language in public is acceptable is at the typical airport flight counter.
Change that to "your local DMV", and I'm in complete agreement.
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Take responsibility for your actions and always be polite, courteous and respectful to others.
Do you have anything in writing?
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What would be the appropriate number of times for him to tell the woman to stop?
Why should she have to listen? Last I checked it's not against the law to be rude.
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Why should she have to listen? Last I checked it's not against the law to be rude.
Maybe I'll just drop my pants and take a dump in the middle of wal-mart, or start spanking it. after all it's not against the law to be rude.
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You need to distinguish between standards of common decency and so called "free speech". No one has a right to assail other citizens with profanity-laden tirades.
No one has the right to be offended by such statements.
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Maybe I'll just drop my pants and take a dump in the middle of wal-mart, or start spanking it. after all it's not against the law to be rude.
That would also be lewd and is against the law.
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Maybe I'll just drop my pants and take a dump in the middle of wal-mart, or start spanking it. after all it's not against the law to be rude.
Unfortunately, that would be public indecency of the sexual flavor. So, I think you'd be going to jail.

Freedom of speech, however, is not covered in public indecency. It's a sad day when people don't defend it.
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If a person is going to have their delicate sensibilities damaged by the chance that they might hear a word deemed inappropriate by another expressing their freedom to say whatever they want, then that person should not leave their house. Ever.


We don't have the freedom to say whatever we want. That's the whole point. He didn't make up the law on the spot, it already existed.

There's a big difference between having "delicate sensibilities" and expecting common courtesy and decency. IMO, we've turned into too much of an "anything goes" society. There is nothing wrong with expecting folks to have respect for others in a public place.
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Why should she have to listen? Last I checked it's not against the law to be rude.

Apparently in that community there is a law against using that type of language in a public place. Am I missing something here? I believe that's why she received the ticket.
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We don't have the freedom to say whatever we want. That's the whole point. He didn't make up the on the spot, it already existed.

There's a big difference between having "delicate sensibilities" and expecting common courtesy and decency. IMO, we've turned into too much of an "anything goes" society. There is nothing wrong with expecting folks to have respect for others in a public place.
Really?

Did she yell fire and put people in danger?
Did she yell gun man and put people in danger?

No. At least not that we know of. So, no, there's no harm to other people. People don't have this right to be offended and have the offensive thing reprimanded.


And as for the bold, nothing could be more laughable. We can't show a breast on a movie screen without an instant R. We can't allow cuss words on cable. We can't deal with sound effects in Paper Planes by MIA on the radio. We can't deal with growing a certain type of plant. We can't deal with what people put in their bodies. We can't deal with lots of things.

Anything goes is as far from American society as anything.
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