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Old 01-13-2009, 06:35 PM  
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Dorsey in the 3-4.
Is it even remotely possible?

A couple speculations out there are that Pioli wants to gravitate towards the 3-4 with our defense.

I think whatever determinations you make about our defense have to be tied into what Dorsey, by far our most expensive defensive player (Surtain about to be released), is capable of.

I think it's pretty clear Dorsey's not NT material, but might he get by as a 3-4 DE?

What are your thoughts?
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:46 PM   #61
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If we carry over 8 players into 2012 (three years from now) I'll be shocked. Dorsey might be one of them. Right now, I'd only bet on Bowe, Albert, and Flowers.
That's way too few. We have a shitload of young players/rookies on cheap contracts.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:48 PM   #62
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That part is just crazy. He was rated as one of the top college players on every single draft board a year ago. Every one knew what his size and strength were.
I doubt their draft boards would be the same after this season.

Do you think he'd be a Top 20 pick if they could do the Draft all over again?
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:48 PM   #63
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That's way too few. We have a shitload of young players/rookies on cheap contracts.
New regimes turn over rosters. We won't do it one year, but in three, it will happen.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:51 PM   #64
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If we carry over 8 players into 2012 (three years from now) I'll be shocked. Dorsey might be one of them. Right now, I'd only bet on Bowe, Albert, and Flowers.
I agree. Colquitt might make it also.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:56 PM   #66
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I doubt their draft boards would be the same after this season.

Do you think he'd be a Top 20 pick if they could do the Draft all over again?
Obviously the draft board would change after one season. But some of the players that were under the radar in terms of on the field performance this season will be pro-bowlers and even HOFers in the future. So after the top rookies that made an impact, who would be at the top of the board?

If the draft was done over, would Flowers be drafted before Dorsey? I'm not sure. Flowers had a better season, but I think Dorsey still has a higher top end in terms of potential, and plays a more valued position in the current NFL.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:57 PM   #67
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Yeah, let's trade Dorsey in his second season. Unbelievable.
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I agree. Colquitt might make it also.
Sure. Punters and kickers are an after thought to me. You have to have them, other wise you wouldn't.
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Yeah, let's trade Dorsey in his second season. Unbelievable.
So if Pioli and the coaches are 1) dead set on going to a 3-4 and 2) they determine that Dorsey isn't suited for it, what is your suggestion? That's all I'm speculating about. Both 1) and 2) are definitely possibilities. My question says nothing about Dorsey being a bust. He could still be a pro-bowl DT in a 4-3, but that does us no good if we go to a 3-4.
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Old 01-13-2009, 09:08 PM   #70
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So someone explain to me what the good skills of a good NT are in the NFL and why Dorsey might not be able to transition to it.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:03 PM   #71
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it's a tough one for me because I really like dorsey and want him to succeed. But I think we should switch to the 3-4, and he really doesn't have much of a spot in it.
How do you draft a guy at #5, give him $23m guaranteed and then change to a scheme he doesn't fit in? You just can't. Unless someone is willing to give you a top 5 pick for him in this draft, which is unlikely considering his performance this year.

Glenn Dorsey is the future of Kansas City Chiefs football. At least until Stafford/Sanchez get drafted.
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Old 01-13-2009, 10:05 PM   #72
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Personally, I still think Dorsey was the best player to come out of that draft. Let's see who's doing what 3 years from now.
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The 3-4 right now can't work ... We don't have the horses on the Dline or the speed and toughness at Lbacker ..
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So someone explain to me what the good skills of a good NT are in the NFL and why Dorsey might not be able to transition to it.
To light to play NT in a 3-4. Dan Saleamua was a good 3-4 NT
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The 3-4 right now can't work ... We don't have the horses on the Dline or the speed and toughness at Lbacker ..
Disagree...in fact I think Hali would make a better OLB in a 3-4 than a DE in a 4-3
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