Football 2009 Broncos = the 2003 Chiefs - Page 5

**Shaid** · 10-20-2009, 10:46 PM

Think about it, crazy last second plays or multiple kick returns to pull out an improbable victory. That's just how we won early on in 2003 until the end of the year rolled around and the meltdown started. I'm still waiting for it. I'm not sold on the Broncos yet.

SenselessChiefsFan · 10-21-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Denver is likely to issue the chiefs 2 beatdowns this year of EPIC proportions...

First, there is no question in my mind that Denver is the better team.

That said, I don't think they will deliver two beatdowns of Epic Proportions.

They are divisional games, and those tend to be hard fought.

The Broncos will play the Chiefs at Arrowhead first, which gives the Chiefs a little bit more of a chance.

And, then, the last game of the year is against Denver, but Denver will probably rest some of its starters.

So, two losses, sure... but epic proportions? I think not.

Reerun_KC · 10-21-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Bull****INGshit!!!!!!

Yeah okay dude... Keep the pipe and smoke a rolling...

Reerun_KC · 10-21-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

First, there is no question in my mind that Denver is the better team.

That said, I don't think they will deliver two beatdowns of Epic Proportions.

They are divisional games, and those tend to be hard fought.

The Broncos will play the Chiefs at Arrowhead first, which gives the Chiefs a little bit more of a chance.

And, then, the last game of the year is against Denver, but Denver will probably rest some of its starters.

So, two losses, sure... but epic proportions? I think not.

You know your right, I forgot the last game of the season is at Denver... so they will already have the division long locked up, probably a first round bye if not a home playoff game. so i can see them not playing hardly anyone that game..... So we might get a win there....

vailpass · 10-21-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

First, there is no question in my mind that Denver is the better team.

That said, I don't think they will deliver two beatdowns of Epic Proportions.

They are divisional games, and those tend to be hard fought.
The Broncos will play the Chiefs at Arrowhead first, which gives the Chiefs a little bit more of a chance.

And, then, the last game of the year is against Denver, but Denver will probably rest some of its starters.

So, two losses, sure... but epic proportions? I think not.

Agreed.

Quesadilla Joe · 10-21-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Coming around?

No.

I didn't think Marshall would make into the season as a Donkey, taking a playmaker away from Orton.

Orton is what he is, a game manager that won't win games.

But he has playmakers that can win games on the outside and a versatile running game to make managing the game easier.

If Orton is ever put into a position to win games with his arm, unless he gets a break like the one in the Bengals game, he can't do it.

He has done it.... He outplayed Romo, Brady, and Rivers this year. We were down by 10 points at half time in the Cowboys and Patriots games and Orton brought us back. He is a good QB. He was a good QB in Chicago he just never had an offensive line, WR's, or a good coaching staff.

That is a big time throw that shows how accurate Orton is. Orton doesn't have a 27-12 record because he is a bad QB.

milkman · 10-21-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He has done it.... He outplayed Romo, Brady, and Rivers this year. We were down by 10 points at half time in the Cowboys and Patriots games and Orton brought us back. He is a good QB. He was a good QB in Chicago he just never had an offensive line, WR's, or a good coaching staff.

That is a big time throw that shows how accurate Orton is. Orton doesn't have a 27-12 record because he is a bad QB.

The guy I underrated was Mike Nolan.

He has put his players in a position to succeed and made outstanding halftime adjustments.

All Orton has done is played within the system, gotten the ball to the playmakers, while the defense has shut down opponents in the second half.

Quesadilla Joe · 10-21-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The guy I underrated was Mike Nolan.

He has put his players in a position to succeed and made outstanding halftime adjustments.

All Orton has done is played within the system, gotten the ball to the playmakers, while the defense has shut down opponents in the second half.

Isn't that the QB's job? Kyle Orton is playing as good as any QB in the NFL right now.

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb

CoMoChief · 10-21-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Yeah okay dude... Keep the pipe and smoke a rolling...

I ****in will!!!!!!

Mile High Mania · 10-21-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Coming around?

No.

I didn't think Marshall would make into the season as a Donkey, taking a playmaker away from Orton.

Orton is what he is, a game manager that won't win games.

But he has playmakers that can win games on the outside and a versatile running game to make managing the game easier.

If Orton is ever put into a position to win games with his arm, unless he gets a break like the one in the Bengals game, he can't do it.

Your post is totally void of merit ... a game manager is Collins in 2008. Orton is top 10 in attempts and he's not playing a safe offense with a lead late into games. You have no proof that Orton can't win a game when they need it unless they catch a break.

CoMoChief · 10-21-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Isn't that the QB's job? Kyle Orton is playing as good as any QB in the NFL right now.

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb

Let it be known to Chiefsplaneteers that the underlined red marks a piece of shit loser QB.

Mile High Mania · 10-21-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Youre right. They'll blow it in the playoffs. Indy will show their true colors.

They play @ Indy in the regular season...

CoMoChief · 10-21-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

They play @ Indy in the regular season...

Well then there ya go. Total ass rapage awaits Donk nation.

Mile High Mania · 10-21-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Well then there ya go. Total ass rapage awaits Donk nation.

Potentially... but, we'll see. People that have visions of Indy dominating Denver as they did a few years ago may be surprised. This defense appears to have heart and never quits... we'll see, Manning can shred the best defense, so it could very well be ugly in Indy.

But, let's say it is... depending on how they play in the other games, that doesn't mean they're all of a sudden a fraud.

milkman · 10-21-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Isn't that the QB's job? Kyle Orton is playing as good as any QB in the NFL right now.

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb

When Orton makes plays late in big games, like Roethlisberger, Manning, Brady, etc, to win games, then we can talk.

Trent Green was a system QB who put up huge numbers.
But he wasn't any more than a glorified game manager.

This has been my argument about Orton all along.

He's a game manager.

Surround him with talent and he can look like a pretty good QB.

But until he makes plays in the clutch, consistently, he is nothing more.

Mile High Mania · 10-21-2009, 09:36 AM

And, don't get me wrong... we all know what Indy can do, but they really haven't played anyone either. That card has been played on Denver a lot, so I can do it here.

The Colts are 6-0 vs Jags, Dolphins, Cardinals, Seahawks, Titans and next up they have the Rams - one team of the 5 over .500.

And, against that schedule - they're 7th in team defense. (14 vs rush, 9 vs pass)

Denver will certainly have their hands fully, but Manning hasn't been pressured like Denver has been consistently doing so far. I like their chances, I certainly don't expect a road win... but I don't expect to see a Manning clinic either.

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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3437229	And, don't get me wrong... we all know what Indy can do, but they really haven't played anyone either. That card has been played on Denver a lot, so I can do it here. The Colts are 6-0 vs Jags, Dolphins, Cardinals, Seahawks, Titans and next up they have the Rams - one team of the 5 over .500. And, against that schedule - they're 7th in team defense. (14 vs rush, 9 vs pass) Denver will certainly have their hands fully, but Manning hasn't been pressured like Denver has been consistently doing so far. I like their chances, I certainly don't expect a road win... but I don't expect to see a Manning clinic either. __________________
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