Chiefs Getting The Band Back Together - Page 5

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-06-2010, 07:08 PM

Exact words from The Doug Gottlieb Show about Pioli's proclivity for hiring guys from "The Tree".

It's also a tried and true method in the NFL over the last couple of decades. Let's take a look at how getting the band back together worked out.

Walsh, Bill. Almost single-handedly built the 49er Dynasty. Was lured back to SF from 1999-2001 as GM. The team experienced moderate success over this time, going 12-4 in 2001, but not winning a playoff game during his tenure.

Vermeil, Dick. Tried to rebuild the '99 Rams with the 2001-2005 Chiefs. Had 2/5 winning seasons and a winning record overall, but never won a playoff game.

Holmgren, Mike. Assumed full control of the Seahawks after leaving GB. Even traded for his old backup QB in the process. Although the team achieved a SB berth, this was after Holmgren had been stripped of his GM duties in 2002, and Bob Ferguson took over.

Policy, Carmen. Former "Executive of the Year" from SF was lured to rebuild the Cleveland Browns. Installed former SF Buddy Dwight Clark as GM. Crashed and burned like the ****ing Hindenburg.

Johnson, Jimmy. The man who built the 90's Cowboys was charged with building the late 90's Dolphins into something Shula couldn't for the last 25 years--a SB champion. Johnson brought in his old assistants towards the end (Wannstedt) but could never match the success he had in Dallas. Ended his tenure with a 62 point ass raping from the Jags.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-07-2010, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig

Its all about the classic question, "What makes New England GREAT instead of just good?" Its funny how a LOT of the questions on here are rehashes of the same 4 or 5 core issues. Its a "philosophy of sports," if you will.

No, it's pretty ****ing simple.

Tom Brady+Bill Belichick.

Meanwhile, all the lemmings seem to think that as long as you have the high explosives and the casing that you can just will the fissile material into place for the nuclear bomb.

Well you can't, and it's never coming here, so find a different way.

TigerPig · 01-07-2010, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No, it's pretty ****ing simple.

Tom Brady+Bill Belichick.

Meanwhile, all the lemmings seem to think that as long as you have the high explosives and the casing that you can just will the fissile material into place for the nuclear bomb.

Well you can't, and it's never coming here, so find a different way.

What way do you propose?

Mecca · 01-07-2010, 02:17 AM

I mean really lets go hire Al Groh and Eric Mangini too, I'm sure that'll take us places.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-07-2010, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig

What way do you propose?

Hiring a GM from a mid-market team who built its core via the draft.

We should have hired someone from Baltimore (DeCosta) or Pittsburgh (Doug Whaley, Ron Hughes) not a guy from a team who fell into the luckiest pick in NFL history who supplemented their team through FA with a mediocre draft record.

Hootie · 01-07-2010, 02:24 AM

Hamas...

Here's an idea.

Listening?

??

Ready?

GET
OVER
...
IT!

JFC

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-07-2010, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

Hamas...

Here's an idea.

Listening?

??

Ready?

GET
OVER
...
IT!

JFC

Hootie, here's an idea:

Die of gang rape in a prison shower.

Hootie · 01-07-2010, 02:28 AM

I'm so mad we hired Pioli blah blah blah we shoulda hired someone else blah blah blah I'm going to shit over every Chiefs related thread because we didn't hire who I wanted blah blah blah I teach college kids I have zero football credentials whatsoever blah blah blah

**AustinChief** · 01-07-2010, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I love Dat Nguyen as LB coach...even if he is VC.

sweet... now let's hope for a Dallas loss to Philly so they are available in time. NOW... since we are putting together our preferred defense... who would we hire as d-line coach?

Bruce Clark? Bruce Smith? Trying to think of former 3-4 players of Wade's and can't come up with any that have coaching experience...

TigerPig · 01-07-2010, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Hiring a GM from a mid-market team who built its core via the draft.

We should have hired someone from Baltimore (DeCosta) or Pittsburgh (Doug Whaley, Ron Hughes) not a guy from a team who fell into the luckiest pick in NFL history who supplemented their team through FA with a mediocre draft record.

But since we didn't and we have the GM we do now, what do you propose? Is the team a total wash now cause we don't have a GM from a mid-market team?

And you think Kraft and Belichick are responsible solely for the front office success in New England, but you don't feel the same about the Rooneys and Cowher? I'm inclined to believe the success of the Steelers is from having a few key people as well. All of the others are plug-and-play.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-07-2010, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

I'm so mad we hired Pioli blah blah blah we shoulda hired someone else blah blah blah I'm going to shit over every Chiefs related thread because we didn't hire who I wanted blah blah blah I teach college kids I have zero football credentials whatsoever blah blah blah

You are literally so ****ing stupid I don't know how you breathe.

Mecca · 01-07-2010, 02:32 AM

I see Hootie is using his draft weekend posting approach year round now.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-07-2010, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief

sweet... now let's hope for a Dallas loss to Philly so they are available in time. NOW... since we are putting together our prefferred defense... who would we hire as d-line coach?

Bruce Clark? Bruce Smith? Trying to think of former 3-4 players of Wade's and can't come up with any that have coaching experience...

Well, my preferred D is a 4-3, but if you had to get a 3-4, the best 3-4 DL coach is John Mitchell, but he's been in Pittsburgh since Cowher was hired.

Hootie · 01-07-2010, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I see Hootie is using his draft weekend posting approach year round now.

well if hamas and OTWP feel like being redundant all year I guess I'll follow their lead

Titty Meat · 01-07-2010, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

well if hamas and OTWP feel like being redundant all year I guess I'll follow their lead

Redundant would be you ****ing your pig with hairgel you greaser.

Mecca · 01-07-2010, 02:39 AM

I thought Billay was about to call Hootie a guido.

01-06-2010, 07:08 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	Getting The Band Back Together Exact words from The Doug Gottlieb Show about Pioli's proclivity for hiring guys from "The Tree". It's also a tried and true method in the NFL over the last couple of decades. Let's take a look at how getting the band back together worked out. Walsh, Bill. Almost single-handedly built the 49er Dynasty. Was lured back to SF from 1999-2001 as GM. The team experienced moderate success over this time, going 12-4 in 2001, but not winning a playoff game during his tenure. Vermeil, Dick. Tried to rebuild the '99 Rams with the 2001-2005 Chiefs. Had 2/5 winning seasons and a winning record overall, but never won a playoff game. Holmgren, Mike. Assumed full control of the Seahawks after leaving GB. Even traded for his old backup QB in the process. Although the team achieved a SB berth, this was after Holmgren had been stripped of his GM duties in 2002, and Bob Ferguson took over. Policy, Carmen. Former "Executive of the Year" from SF was lured to rebuild the Cleveland Browns. Installed former SF Buddy Dwight Clark as GM. Crashed and burned like the ****ing Hindenburg. Johnson, Jimmy. The man who built the 90's Cowboys was charged with building the late 90's Dolphins into something Shula couldn't for the last 25 years--a SB champion. Johnson brought in his old assistants towards the end (Wannstedt) but could never match the success he had in Dallas. Ended his tenure with a 62 point ass raping from the Jags.
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01-07-2010, 02:17 AM	#63
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	I mean really lets go hire Al Groh and Eric Mangini too, I'm sure that'll take us places.
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01-07-2010, 02:24 AM	#65
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Hamas... Here's an idea. Listening? ?? Ready? GET OVER ... IT! JFC
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01-07-2010, 02:28 AM	#67
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I'm so mad we hired Pioli blah blah blah we shoulda hired someone else blah blah blah I'm going to shit over every Chiefs related thread because we didn't hire who I wanted blah blah blah I teach college kids I have zero football credentials whatsoever blah blah blah
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01-07-2010, 02:32 AM	#71
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	I see Hootie is using his draft weekend posting approach year round now.
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01-07-2010, 02:39 AM	#75
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	I thought Billay was about to call Hootie a guido.
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