Chiefs Well, at least Matt Cassel has no excuses next year. - Page 5

Coogs · 04-23-2010, 08:08 PM

New OC. Check
New slot reciever. Check
New TE. Check
2 new G's Check
New C. Check
Solid LT with 2 years experience. Check
#1 WR with two 1,000 yard seasons (almost) first two seasons. Check
#2 WR with solid game. Check
2 great RB's. Check

Big Matt is all out of excuses except for a new RT.

Time to put up dude!

KCJohnny · 04-24-2010, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury

But the Pats under Weis were never really a true 'spread' team... It always struck me that they went more spread when McDaniels became OC and the got Moss and Welker. Until then, Brady had the rep of being able to make his WRs better; after 2008, it was the combo of Brady, the scheme, and his WRs that made the Patriots offense so scary.

Fair enough. I concede that McDaniels definitely went spread-ward. Off topic, do you see him running a spread in Donkeytown with Tim Tebow?

KCJohnny · 04-24-2010, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Again, stand up and bow.

We was right there.

'Course, we was also both dead wrong about Herm....BUT that's a different story...

LOL, well..... I never thought Herm was the answer, but I was willing to give him a chance. We both thought Herm would bring defense back to KC. Mea culpa on that one.

Q: will the Chiefs run a spread O in 2010? Is Haley looking for a Cards type O? We do not have the horses for that.

The_Doctor10 · 04-24-2010, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Fair enough. I concede that McDaniels definitely went spread-ward. Off topic, do you see him running a spread in Donkeytown with Tim Tebow?

I think Denver is honestly the best possible situation for Tebow. I know we all like to mock McFistpump but Kyle Neckbeard was a below-average QB at best in Chicago; the only reason he was thought to be a viable option is because he wasn't nearly the ****-up that Rex Grossman was, and the Bears were in an 'Any port in a storm' scenario. In Denver, while Orton wasn't exactly Drew Brees, he wasn't exactly a horrifically awful QB either. Josh McDaniels knows how to coach that position, for all his other questionable moves as a HC. I don't think he'll rush Tebow into action, and I think no other player on Denver's roster is going to have as much coaching and help as Tebow will.

Time will tell of course, but right now, I'd say the chances of Tebow being an NFL success, or at the very least, not an NFL failure, are the greatest in Denver. If he were to have gone to Buffalo or Jacksonville, I'd wager he'd be playing QB for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers in two years.

**Rausch** · 04-24-2010, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Q: will the Chiefs run a spread O in 2010?

No.

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Is Haley looking for a Cards type O?

I think his input has been removed from almost every aspect of the offensive philosophy.

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

We do not have the horses for that.

Haley's idea of offense is gone. Out the window.

That's the whole idea. You draft players who can play a number of positions and then you don't have to replace a stud at position A or D, just an underpaid guy asked to play 2 or 3 positions...

KCJohnny · 04-24-2010, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

No.

I think his input has been removed from almost every aspect of the offensive philosophy.

Haley's idea of offense is gone. Out the window.

That's the whole idea. You draft players who can play a number of positions and then you don't have to replace a stud at position A or D, just an underpaid guy asked to play 2 or 3 positions...

Really?
This is still the same Todd Haley that fired Chan Gailey right before the 2009 season so he could run 'his' offense. I hope you are right, but I somehow doubt it.

whoman69 · 04-24-2010, 08:13 AM

You don't have Charles and Jones on your team and then run a spread. You don't draft a TE like Moeaki if you are going spread. This team might have some 5 receiver formations and look to get the defense to cover the whole field, but we're not a spread any more than we were with Trent Green and Priest Holmes.

Coogs · 04-24-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

interesting analogy that it's about excuses..I mean, teams shouldn't do what they can to help their offense succeed? or better yet, aren't you stating the reasons for the subpar performance of the offense?

...it's 11 guys, not 1.

That is really what I am saying. The reason for Cassel's sub-par performance last year centered around the idea that he didn't have any talent around him. He has been given talent. Damn near everywhere. And I like the talents of a lot of the guys we selected. The ball is in his court now. They sold us a bill of goods last year that said he was a top 10 QB in this league. We should see this fall if that is a true statement or not.

InChiefsHeaven · 04-24-2010, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

**** Pioli. **** Cassel. **** this franchise.

You know what? Blow it our your ass...go be a ****ing Donk-gay fan...

**** You...

Mr. Laz · 04-24-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

New OC. Check
New slot reciever. Check
New TE. Check
2 new G's Check
New C. Check
Solid LT with 2 years experience. Check
#1 WR with two 1,000 yard seasons (almost) first two seasons. Check
#2 WR with solid game. Check
2 great RB's. Check

Big Matt is all out of excuses except for a new RT.

Time to put up dude!

where's the "improved OT's. Check"?

**The Franchise** · 04-26-2010, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

New OC. Check
New slot reciever. Check
New TE. Check
2 new G's Check
New C. Check
Solid LT with 2 years experience. Check
#1 WR with two 1,000 yard seasons (almost) first two seasons. Check
#2 WR with solid game. Check
2 great RB's. Check

Big Matt is all out of excuses except for a new RT.

Time to put up dude!

And when he sucks....those will be the excuses that people use to give him another year.

**DeezNutz** · 04-26-2010, 09:13 AM

There will be all sorts of excuses. Just wait...

1. He's started for only two full seasons. Give him time!
2. Yet another OC! He needs consistency!
3. McCluster is still learning the system!
4. He's throwing to tiny targets!

Rinse, repeat.

L.A. Chieffan · 04-26-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

There will be all sorts of excuses. Just wait...

1. He's started for only two full seasons. Give him time!
2. Yet another OC! He needs consistency!
3. McCluster is still learning the system!
4. He's throwing to tiny targets!

Rinse, repeat.

Dont forget Albert is NOT a LT in this league!

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If Moeaki didnt get injured Cassel wouldve had a check down on all those sacks!

**The Franchise** · 04-26-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Dont forget Albert is NOT a LT in this league!

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If Moeaki didnt get injured Cassel wouldve had a check down on all those sacks!

I can already see how it's going to play out next year. Cassel is going to put up his mediocre numbers once again, take a bunch of sacks and the front office is then going to blame Albert. The fans will scream for a LT in the 1st round and one more year for Cassel.

Mr. Laz · 04-26-2010, 09:19 AM

so if Albert and O'callaghan don't improve and Cassel has to run for his life again ... that's an excuse?

Amnorix · 04-26-2010, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

2 guys were drafted that are basically designed to run little checkoff routes.

So, you don't like Wes Welker and Kevin Faulk? Odd way to look at it.

04-23-2010, 08:08 PM
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